In this episode of 'Conversations with Amoda Maa,' Amoda and Kavi explore what she calls the "light (radiance) of being"—our essential, quality-less nature that's prior to personality, thought, emotion, and circumstance.

Amoda clarifies that "light" isn't a special effect or perfected persona; it's the ever-present transparency of awareness that remains when all experiences pass.

The conversation unpacks how veils of conditioning (guilt, shame, unworthiness, grievance, the acquisitive ego) obscure this radiance, and how glimpses often arise in shock, beauty, or profound presence when the mind stops referencing.

Awakening is both sudden and gradual: nothing outward needs to change, yet life is revolutionized from grasping and drama to a lightness of being—an ordinary, intimate openness that meets daily life without seeking the next moment for fulfillment.

They touch on the potency of the shared field in gatherings, the end of horizontal seeking, and the simple inner inquiry: "What remains when experience passes?"

The episode closes with a note about Amoda's forthcoming book, Unveiling the Light of Being, and upcoming events.