In this episode, Curt and Kevin continue their Fantastic Four-part series on the World's Greatest Comic Magazine with a discussion of the FF's greatest villain via two very different tales: The Fantastic Origin of Doctor Doom from Fantastic Four Annual #2, and Unthinkable, from Fantastic Four Vol. 3 #67-70 and #500, published by Marvel Comics!

First, it's a quick time-hop back to the 1960s as Stan Lee and Jack Kirby recount the not-so-humble beginnings of everyone's favorite mad monarch, Victor Von Doom! Then it's on to 2003, as Mark Waid and the late Mike Wieringo depict a demonic deal that may defeat Marvel's quintessential quartet once and for all!

Having embraced his sorcerous side, will Victor finally emerge victorious? Or can our science-loving squad outsmart their arrogant arch-nemesis and thus gain entry into that Magic Castle known as … The Comics Canon?

Things Discussed in This Episode:

• Roger Corman's Fantastic Four film
• Some unfortunate Romany stereotypes
• Books of Doom
• Noah Hawley's Doctor Doom script
• Does Unthinkable get Doom wrong?
• Victor Von Doom's Dungeons & Dragons Alignment
• Billy Bob Thornton
• Doomsday
• Authoritative Action
• Infamous Iron Man Vol. 1
• Marvel Two-in-One Annual
• Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment

Join us in one week for our annual selective look at the year so far in comics movie and TV adaptations! And then set your time machine for the following week as we close out this Fantastic foursome of episodes with a discussion of Three from Fantastic Four #583-588, by Jonathan Hickman, Steve Epting and Nick Dragotta!

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