This week we change things up, as its two really tired Brits, one who's still slightly drunk, and a frankly high Canadian, who discuss Zwift racing, and in particular the Herd Summer Racing League.

Join us for some tips and tricks as we consider 'Out and Back Again' and probably speak the most nonsense since we randomly shouted animal names at Innsbruck... We're also joined by Nate Holme, to find out more about his journey to the HERD.

Thanks again to Gavin for the theme tune!