The Luella Jonk Show

Episode #71: Relationship Wisdom on the PLANTSTRONG Podcast with Rip Esselstyn


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In this unique episode, I'm switching chairs—I'm the guest! Rip Esselstyn invited me onto his PLANTSTRONG Podcast to discuss marriage, relationships, and how couples navigate health changes together. If you've been following my show, you know I don't subscribe to just one way of doing things, whether it's diet or relationships. So when Rip reached out, I was thrilled to share my perspective with his plant-strong community.

This conversation was particularly meaningful because we tackled something many of his listeners face: the household divided. What happens when one partner is ready to embrace a whole food, plant-based lifestyle, but the other wants to keep eating "like a man"? How do you navigate that without turning dinner into a battleground?

I'll walk you through:

✅ My 12 core principles for lasting marriage—from partnership over individualism to sacrifice and mercy

✅ Why marriage is about "we" not "I" and how modern culture's obsession with individualism is sabotaging relationships

✅ The real meaning of commitment as a covenant (not a contract you can negotiate your way out of)

✅ Why intimacy goes far beyond the physical and how to avoid transactional relationships

✅ How to rebuild trust after infidelity and why longer relationships have better odds of healing

✅ The importance of parenting as a unified team (even when you were raised completely differently)

✅ Why financial unity means "our money"—not "my money" or doling out allowances

✅ The power of modeling behavior and curiosity when partners are divided on lifestyle changes

✅ Why acts of love matter more than grand gestures and how forgiveness is always a choice

🔔 Remember: Marriage requires constant sacrifice. It's not 50/50—it's 100/100. And when couples stop focusing solely on "me" and start serving each other, that's when the flywheel of love, mercy, and sacrifice begins to turn beautifully.

Whether you're navigating dietary differences with your spouse, struggling with parenting decisions, or simply trying to keep your marriage thriving in our hyper-individualistic culture, this conversation offers practical wisdom grounded in 25 years of counseling thousands of couples.

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Follow Rip Esselstyn and PLANTSTRONG:

Website: https://plantstrongpodcast.com

Instagram: @ripesselstyn, @goplantstrong

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