In this conversation, Philip talks to Jonathan Brill, author of Rogue Waves and Managing Director at Resilient Growth Partners. Philip and Jonathan discuss the thought process behind rogue waves and how recognizing hard to fathom shifts could prepare your organization for the future.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

*Philip’s Drop: *Inglorious Empire: What the British Did to India – Shashi Tharoor

Jonathan’s Drop: Against the Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk Peter L. Bernstein

The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy and the Life of John Maynard Keynes

The Chef’s Garden: A Modern Guide to Common and Unusual Vegetables

Special Guest: Jonathan Brill.