Ruby Warrington is the author of the 2018 book, Sober Curious, and million download podcast of the same title. Her work has spearheaded a global movement to reevaluate our relationship to alcohol. With 20+ years’ experience as a lifestyle journalist and editor, Ruby is also the founder of self-publishing incubator Numinous Books. Her new book, Women Without Kids, is out now.

Today Danielle talks with Ruby Warrington, author of Women Without Kids about all things motherhood, family, and the process of women crafting their own identities separate from societal and patriarchal standards. Ruby introduces the motherhood spectrum (6:16) and continues on talking about the consequences of choosing not to have children (11:40). Later Ruby mentions the idea of pro-natalism and its effect on various facets of society (18:33) and her own relationship with her mother (30:23). Ruby and Danielle finish up talking about the concept of family constellations (38:16) and relationship between female pleasure and procreation (42:00).

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