Part 1:
We talk with Melissa Gira Grant, staff writer for the New Republic.
We discuss the "detention centers" being established by the administration. It is unclear exactly how many people are being imprisoned there, under what conditions, and who those people are.
Part 2:
We talk with Jeff Ernsthausen, reporter for ProPublica.
We discuss the builders and operators of the 'detention camps', where these camps are located, and who is likely to be running those camps, and the conditions of those camps, given the climate and construction of the camps.  

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Music: David Rovics