Kim connects with her colleague and good friend from graduate school, Dr. Carol Bruess, to talk about rituals in relationships. Dr. Bruess is a professor, author and researcher on relationships and she is passionate about rituals and traditions. They discuss the research on rituals, traditions and nicknames in families, couples and friendships. They also share advice and tips for making and sustaining your own relationship rituals and traditions.

You can find Carol at https://carolbruess.com.

The "Do you know?" Scale https://legacystories.org/do-you-know-scale.