In Episode 85, we're joined by Camille Bordas, whose recent novel The Material explores what a fictionalized MFA program in stand-up comedy might look like. It's funny (as you might imagine) and philosophical, exploring some of the great cultural questions of our (and just about any other) time. 

You can find out more about Camille on her website, where eight of her New Yorker short stories are linked. 

Her English language novels are both available on bookshop.org.

Camille's Chicago piece we mention on the 2024 Democratic National Convention is here. 

Camille is on Instagram a little bit here. 

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