In this episode I'm joined by Clive Palmer to take stock of where we are after the Carabao Cup final, and how we try and process that defeat as we look ahead to what remains of the season. We discuss what it is Mikel Arteta can take from this game, how we get key individuals back to something like their best level for the run-in, how a couple of players who have been somewhat peripheral this season might have a big part to play in the coming weeks, the Interlull action including an England return for Ben White, and lots more.

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