This episode of Knowing Animals comes to you from the Rethinking Animality conference in Spain. I am joined by Michelle Westerlaken. Michelle is aPhD Candidate in Interaction/Game Design at Malmö University, Sweden. We discuss Michelle's article 'Uncivilising the Future: Imagining Non-Speciesism' which appeared in the journal Antae in 2017.

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