Jermaine sits with Hip Hop legend Canibus to break down the different elements of complex raps to explain what complexity and wine means. This is not just a podcast about wine. It’s a master class in how to write a dope rap, with significant insight on flow, metaphors, wordplay, vocabulary with two masters at their craft. You would never think that Canibus was a classically trained clarinet player, by a conductor of the Philharmonic. but that was just one of the details. We learned in this interview. Whether a rap nerd or a wine nerd this is not one you want to miss.