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In this live episode of the Wine & Hip Hop Podcast, Jermaine Stone sits down with Andre Mack at the Philbrook Museum in Tulsa for a conversation that goes far beyond wine.
Andre Mack is one of the most influential voices in modern wine, a former Per Se beverage director who went on to build a multi-million dollar wine brand and redefine what it means to be a sommelier. But this conversation isn’t the usual story.
Because of their longstanding relationship, Jermaine and Andre discuss topics that aren’t often discussed publicly, from the real mindset behind his success to the decisions that shaped his path outside the traditional wine world.
They talk about:
• Going from zero wine knowledge to the top of fine dining in under two years
• Walking away from the expected path to build something independent
• Using hip hop, culture, and storytelling to connect with new audiences
• What it actually takes to communicate wine in a way people understand
• The current state of the wine industry and where it’s headed next
• Why live experiences are becoming the future of wine
• A major reveal about what Andre is building next
Recorded live in Tulsa, a city that has become a second home for Jermaine, this episode blends real conversation, industry insight, and cultural perspective in a way that only Wine & Hip Hop can.
This isn’t just about wine. It’s about building your own lane.
Water to Wine is the final episode of Wine & Hip Hop in 2025—and a reflection on everything this year has been about: community, leadership, and surviving the times together.
In this closing conversation, Jermaine Stone sits down with Shaun J. Lee, the seventh pastor of Mount Lebanon Baptist Church in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn. For well over a century, Mount Lebanon Baptist Church has stood as a historic anchor in the Black community in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn—a place of gathering, organizing, protection, and continuity when resources were limited and the future uncertain.
The conversation lives at the intersection of church and hip hop, examining how both have historically functioned as survival languages—spaces where people tell the truth, process hardship, and find ways to keep going. Pastor Lee and Jermaine talk about community leadership, responsibility, and what it means to hold people together during challenging times.
As the year comes to a close, Water to Wine isn’t about spectacle—it’s about endurance. About how communities survive through culture, mentorship, presence, and shared space.
This episode is the bow on a year dedicated to building community.
In this episode of Wine & Hip Hop, host Jermaine “Showtime” Stone—aka The Wolf of Wine—sits down with legendary DJ, creative strategist, and cultural thinker Mick for a layered, unfiltered conversation about music, wine, creativity, and longevity.
Mick reflects on his journey from the golden era of mixtapes to becoming a respected speaker, investor, and cultural voice, sharing hard-earned lessons on creative evolution, entrepreneurship, timing, and building a sustainable career without losing the soul of the craft. Jermaine draws sharp parallels between Burgundy and Oregon, mixtapes and winemaking, pressure and diamonds, showing how true artistry matures when ego steps aside and intention leads.
The episode unfolds over a guided tasting of Abbott Claim Winery wines from Oregon’s Willamette Valley, with insight from acclaimed French winemaker Alban de Bouville, whose Burgundian philosophy has helped shape Abbott Claim into one of the most terroir-driven producers in the New World.
This episode explores:
The mixtape era and how DJs built brands before social media
Why Oregon Chardonnay mirrors Burgundy’s humility, precision, and restraint
Terroir as a mindset—not just a wine term
Creative patience, Plan B’s, and long-term thinking
How great wine and great music both reward curiosity, attention, and time
This is Wine & Hip Hop at its core—where culture, conversation, and craftsmanship intersect.
For October’s Dope Cellar Dinner, Jermaine “The Wolf of Wine” Stone takes listeners inside the story of Oregon’s boutique powerhouse, Abbott Claim Winery, through the lens of fine wine and hip hop. In this Dope Cellar Profile, Jermaine sits down with winemaker Alban Debeaulieu — the French-born visionary blending Burgundy precision with Oregon soul.
Together, they taste through a lineup that includes the 2022 & 2023 Eola-Amity Hills Chardonnay, 2022 & 2023 Temperance Hill Pinot Noir, and 2022 & 2023 X Omni Chardonnay — wines that prove why Abbott Claim is redefining boutique craftsmanship in the Willamette Valley.
As the glasses empty, Jermaine and Alban explore the intersection of artistry and intention, pairing the wines with hip-hop heavyweights Jay-Z’s “Oh My God” and Clipse’s “Mike Tyson Blow to the Face.” The result? A powerful collision of flavor, philosophy, and flow.
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For October’s Dope Cellar Dinner, Jermaine “The Wolf of Wine” Stone takes listeners inside the story of Oregon’s boutique powerhouse, Abbott Claim Winery, through the lens of fine wine and hip hop. In this Dope Cellar Profile, Jermaine sits down with winemaker Alban Debeaulieu — the French-born visionary blending Burgundy precision with Oregon soul.
Together, they taste through a lineup that includes the 2022 & 2023 Eola-Amity Hills Chardonnay, 2022 & 2023 Temperance Hill Pinot Noir, and 2022 & 2023 X Omni Chardonnay — wines that prove why Abbott Claim is redefining boutique craftsmanship in the Willamette Valley.
As the glasses empty, Jermaine and Alban explore the intersection of artistry and intention, pairing the wines with hip-hop heavyweights Jay-Z’s “Oh My God” and Clipse’s “Mike Tyson Blow to the Face.” The result? A powerful collision of flavor, philosophy, and flow.
#winepodcast #hiphopandwine #finewine #dopecellardinner #jermainestone #thewolfofwine #abbottclaimwinery #albandebeaulieu #oregonwine #willamettevalley #eolaamityhills #temperancehill #pinotnoir #chardonnay #2022pinotnoir #2023chardonnay #boutiquewine #burgundyprecision #winepairing #jayz #clipse #hiphopmusic #wineandfoodpairing #dopecellarprofile
For October’s Dope Cellar Dinner, Jermaine “The Wolf of Wine” Stone takes listeners inside the story of Oregon’s boutique powerhouse, Abbott Claim Winery, through the lens of fine wine and hip hop. In this Dope Cellar Profile, Jermaine sits down with winemaker Alban Debeaulieu — the French-born visionary blending Burgundy precision with Oregon soul.
Together, they taste through a lineup that includes the 2022 & 2023 Eola-Amity Hills Chardonnay, 2022 & 2023 Temperance Hill Pinot Noir, and 2022 & 2023 X Omni Chardonnay — wines that prove why Abbott Claim is redefining boutique craftsmanship in the Willamette Valley.
As the glasses empty, Jermaine and Alban explore the intersection of artistry and intention, pairing the wines with hip-hop heavyweights Jay-Z’s “Oh My God” and Clipse’s “Mike Tyson Blow to the Face.” The result? A powerful collision of flavor, philosophy, and flow.
#winepodcast #hiphopandwine #finewine #dopecellardinner #jermainestone #thewolfofwine #abbottclaimwinery #albandebeaulieu #oregonwine #willamettevalley #eolaamityhills #temperancehill #pinotnoir #chardonnay #2022pinotnoir #2023chardonnay #boutiquewine #burgundyprecision #winepairing #jayz #clipse #hiphopmusic #wineandfoodpairing #dopecellarprofile
For October’s Dope Cellar Dinner, Jermaine “The Wolf of Wine” Stone takes listeners inside the story of Oregon’s boutique powerhouse, Abbott Claim Winery, through the lens of fine wine and hip hop. In this Dope Cellar Profile, Jermaine sits down with winemaker Alban Debeaulieu — the French-born visionary blending Burgundy precision with Oregon soul.
Together, they taste through a lineup that includes the 2022 & 2023 Eola-Amity Hills Chardonnay, 2022 & 2023 Temperance Hill Pinot Noir, and 2022 & 2023 X Omni Chardonnay — wines that prove why Abbott Claim is redefining boutique craftsmanship in the Willamette Valley.
As the glasses empty, Jermaine and Alban explore the intersection of artistry and intention, pairing the wines with hip-hop heavyweights Jay-Z’s “Oh My God” and Clipse’s “Mike Tyson Blow to the Face.” The result? A powerful collision of flavor, philosophy, and flow.
#winepodcast #hiphopandwine #finewine #dopecellardinner #jermainestone #thewolfofwine #abbottclaimwinery #albandebeaulieu #oregonwine #willamettevalley #eolaamityhills #temperancehill #pinotnoir #chardonnay #2022pinotnoir #2023chardonnay #boutiquewine #burgundyprecision #winepairing #jayz #clipse #hiphopmusic #wineandfoodpairing #dopecellarprofile
For October’s Dope Cellar Dinner, Jermaine “The Wolf of Wine” Stone takes listeners inside the story of Oregon’s boutique powerhouse, Abbott Claim Winery, through the lens of fine wine and hip hop. In this Dope Cellar Profile, Jermaine sits down with winemaker Alban Debeaulieu — the French-born visionary blending Burgundy precision with Oregon soul.
Together, they taste through a lineup that includes the 2022 & 2023 Eola-Amity Hills Chardonnay, 2022 & 2023 Temperance Hill Pinot Noir, and 2022 & 2023 X Omni Chardonnay — wines that prove why Abbott Claim is redefining boutique craftsmanship in the Willamette Valley.
As the glasses empty, Jermaine and Alban explore the intersection of artistry and intention, pairing the wines with hip-hop heavyweights Jay-Z’s “Oh My God” and Clipse’s “Mike Tyson Blow to the Face.” The result? A powerful collision of flavor, philosophy, and flow.
#winepodcast, #hiphopandwine, #finewine, #dopecellardinner, #jermainestone, #thewolfofwine, #abbottclaimwinery, #albandebeaulieu, #oregonwine, #willamettevalley, #eolaamityhills, #temperancehill, #pinotnoir, #chardonnay, #2022pinotnoir, #2023chardonnay, #boutiquewine, #burgundyprecision, #winepairing, #jayz, #clipse, #hiphopmusic, #wineandfoodpairing, #dopecellarprofile
In this episode of Wine & Hip Hop: Dual Citizenship, Jermaine reflects on the healing this country needs and shares his perspective on immigration not as politics, but as the story of culture, connection, and what we create when we come together. From the Caribbean migration of the 1970s to the Bronx, Jermaine explores how Jamaican traditions like toasting became the foundation for hip hop and how first-generation experiences shaped the sound of a global movement. Alongside the music, he breaks down Lambrusco—a sparkling red wine from Northern Italy—explaining its styles, flavor, and why it pairs so well with bold Jamaican dishes like jerk chicken. More than just history and wine, this episode argues that Wine & Hip Hop is more than culture—it’s a blueprint for unity, proof that when we blend differences with intention, we can save the world one pairing at a time.
In this episode, Jermaine Stone (@realwolfofwine) sits down with the legendary Jancis Robinson (@jancis.robinson), a true titan in the world of wine.
With over 40 years of experience, Jancis shares her journey through the wine industry and reflects on the challenges and triumphs she's encountered. From her first taste of the iconic 1947 Château Cheval Blanc to her experiences selecting wines for the royal household, Jancis provides knowledge that blends seamlessly with Jermaine's unique perspective on hip-hop culture.
As they dive into the intersections of wine and music, listeners will enjoy a rich discussion that compares the complexities of Bordeaux wines to the lyrical depth of New York hip-hop, as well as the soulful sounds of Houston's music scene paired with the elegance of sherry.
This episode not only highlights the artistry found in both wine and hip-hop but also emphasizes the importance of authenticity and storytelling in both fields.
This Episode is :
An exploration of Jancis Robinson's influential career in the wine industry
A comparison of wine regions and hip-hop styles, revealing their unique characteristics
Insights into the evolving landscape of wine and the importance of community in navigating challenges
Jancis' thoughts on the future of wine and the excitement of new regions emerging globally
This is a masterclass in the art of wine and hip-hop. Join us for an engaging conversation that celebrates the beauty of both worlds.
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