On this episode, what starts out as a conversation about basketball evolves into a conversation full of life lessons. For John Lucas III, basketball has been life. His pops, John Lucas was a player, and has had a long career as a coach spanning multiple eras of the NBA. John grew up in the game, becoming a pro himself. He’s seen it from the perspective of the star, the back up, the journeyman and the rookie. The game took him all over the world, and is, for the most part, his identity.

For Gil, John is the type of player who gets it. He knew who he was as a player, understands the business of the game and knows his big picture. That picture comes from a valuable lesson that any and every player will find out at some point...humility. No matter if you’re a GOAT or bench player, you experience L’s, cuts and failures of some kind at some point. As long as you learn from them, you’ll grow and be better off for the experience.

Presented by: Athletic Greens and Draft Kings

THE NO CHILL PODCAST

A No Chill Production

EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Tim Livingston, Gilbert Arenas, Mike Botticello

HOSTED BY: GILBERT ARENAS and MIKE BOTTICELLO

Videography/Editor: Steven Rhys Foster

Director: Steven Rhys Foster

Sound: Alfonso Cano

Talent Coordinator: Thomas Scott