This episode is a grab bag of guests. First, Mike and Bryan talk to Darren Hayes, formerly of Savage Garden and currently of the He Said, He Said podcast, about the diversity issue. Then, they talk to Leigh George Kade of the Geek Show Podcast with quick reactions to the news of Rogue One. Then Mike is joined by Kevin Liell to discuss his art the Celebration Trivia contests and much more!

Remember to visit booth 1103 at Star Wars Celebration and http://www.norselegion.com for some awesome Kevin Liell designed Star Wars inspired jewelry!

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