Tony Jones is an accomplished Minnesota author who has a passion for wild places, including the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness.

As he describes it, when Tony walked out of the church several years ago and into the woods, he left the orderly pews and numbered hymns for chaotic spaces and untamed wilderness. Tony writes about this in his new book, "The God of Wild Places."

In this episode of the podcast, Tony paddles with Joe on the edge of the BWCA to share some of his journey from being a minister to someone who finds spiritual connection in the wilderness. Tony then sits down with M Baxley around a campfire to reflect on why the wilderness is, in fact, the God of wild places.