In this new podcast, Trav sits down with his co-host Jonas to discuss the vision for their real estate "empire" -  and why they believe experiential hospitality is the answer.

If you're interested in going on this journey with us, then you're in luck - we'll be releasing new EPOP Real Estate shows every week to give you a behind the scenes look as we go on a mission to create the most unique and boutique micro-resorts around the world.