Author, Spiritual Director, Retreat Leader, Speaker, Co-Founder of Gravity: A Center for Contemplative Activism, and former social justice and aid work Phileena Heuertz is my guest today.

We discuss a lot of what is in Phileena's second book "Mindful Silence: The Heart of Christian Contemplation" Our conversation covers making space for presence and invitation (for others), suffering and the presence of God, holding doubt and faith together, unknowing to know, paradox, Centering Prayer, the deconstruction of the self, and the three essential things to learn: Solitude, Silence, and Stillness ... and we talk about quite a bit more.

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