My conversation with author, Cindy S. Lee involves topics of great importance and interest to me. Cindy is thoughtful and spacious and one of just a few contemporary authors I cite in my new book on topics of spiritual formation.We discuss themes of her book: Contemplative Witnessing: BIPOC Centered Spiritual Direction

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Some of what we cover:Avoiding the loss of the sacred self.Embodied spiritual practicesSpaciousness as a presence we carryThe power of silence in community and what comes after that.

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