How will COVID-19 change the Canadian economy? What do policy makers need to do to ensure we can properly recover from COVID-19? Where can relief packages be strengthened and what policies are needed next? On this episode, we're joined by Karim Bardeesy - former Deputy Principal Secretary to the Premier of Ontario and current head of the Ryerson Leadership Lab to talk policy shop related to COVID-19. Listen to Karim's unique thoughts and ideas on everything from auto insurance relief to a made in Ontario small business lender to the need to protect equality and human capital in the policy responses in the months to come.