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Rachel Cleary & Sam Anthrope – Horse Rehab - Equinety accelerates healing process - Suspensory – flexor tendon – Navicular – Mystery Lameness and more

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. This is a special one although I think every week is special but we're going to swing up into Indiana and we've got Rachel Cleary on the line now. Her background is rehabbing horses that come from well one end of the spectrum to the other and we'll get into that but what's unique about this particular podcast is she drug on one of her friends and boarders that's going to talk about her horse and how she found Equinety. So Rachel Cleary and Sam Anthrop welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Rachel Cleary:

Hi, thanks for having us.

Samantha Anthrope:

Hi, thank you.

John Dowdy:

Oh you bet. We're excited to have you. So let's get right into this. Rachel, let's start off with just talking a little bit about the work that you do with rehabbing horses and where do they come from, what kind of stuff do you typically deal with, how long you've been doing it, that kind of stuff.

Rachel Cleary:

Well we have been doing rehab really my whole life that I can remember. We've always gotten horses that have been in bad conditions and rehabbed them weight ways and health ways to get them to get show homes and things like that. We started doing physical rehabilitation about eight years ago. A certified massage therapist, rehab therapist among a million other things here. But we really do a lot of sports injuries and weight issues, elderly horses, things like that. So, a lot of extreme cases come in as far as pain or just in your general killer pin type courses that have been abused so not just weight gain but physical rehabilitation.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, so we can be talking from something very I mean like a weight gain type of thing which nutrition and some exercising things to very severe like we've got to have the professional team because I mean you do work with, well tell us about the team that you work with.

Rachel Cleary:

Absolutely. I have an awesome team. I have a veterinarian that is one of which is our, we call her our emergency onsite farrier, Chris Chapel. She lives about 10 miles from us so she can get to the barn pronto. She is always got eyes on our horses. We have a corrective farrier, Dan Woody, who's also an RVT who does all of our balancing with the hoofs. And then we work with Dr Davern from Centaur Equine Specialty Hospital in Shelbyville, Indiana. He is a surgeon and he takes all of our extreme cases and helps us with these really tough journeys so we have a great team.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, that's incredible. Now let's talk about now you've been doing this for a long time and you've been using the Equinety product for about how long?

Rachel Cleary:

Since July of 2017 so this will be going on our third year so about two and a half years with the product.

John Dowdy:

And I think it's important because the reason I asked you that question is since you've been doing rehab work that brings all kinds of challenges to the table you didn't have Equinety. You've only been using it for two and a half years. So what is the biggest thing that you've noticed since adding Equinety to your program?

Rachel Cleary:

How fast this product accelerates everything that we do from weight gain to muscle gain, to the healing processes of physical wounds, flesh wounds, cuts like that, and internal wounds as far as suspensory injuries and torn muscles and things like that. We've been doing it a long time and rehab's tough and every horse is different. And even with the weight gain issues you're not just targeting on...

Mary Patterson – Trail Horse - Very reactive, anxious, couldn't control her attention

or focus, easy keeper – Now Happier, More Muscle, More Focused, More Balanced

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We're going to swing up into Iowa. We've got Mary Patterson on this week. Mary, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Mary Patterson:

Well, thank you for having me, John. I'm excited to talk about this great product.

John Dowdy:

Well, we're excited to have you on, as well. And, as with most of these podcast, I came across one of your comments on our Facebook advertising that we do so much of and I believe the way that it was worded that this product literally saved your horse's life and I'm like, okay, we've got to dig into this one to see what's going on. Because I tell people this is not a miracle supplement but some of these stories, it really makes you wonder sometimes. But, before we get into all of that, you have a trail horse. Tell us about this mare and what she was like prior to anything going on. What was your daily activities like and what did you guys do together?

Mary Patterson:

Okay, well, she is a 15-year-old quarter horse mare and have done a lot of trail riding on her. Showed her in her earlier years and then have just been riding with my friends usually three times during the week and every weekend going camping. She's been to South Dakota and just all over for me. She's my primary mare and my go-to so I put a lot of miles on her. And, because she's such a steady mare, I decided that I wanted to raise a colt out of her. So at 14 years old I got her bred and she had her first foal in May of this year at 15 years old. So, very happy that the birth and everything seemed to go well. But she did colic that night that she foaled, which is very unusual.

Mary Patterson:

This mare is just the image of health all of her life, very easy keeper, but she had just foaled and with her uterus contracting, she did colic and we were able to give her some Banamine and she came out of that and for the next couple of months didn't seem to really miss a beat. She was back to being fat and nursing that colt and he was growing good until July 30th and that day was very scary for me.

Mary Patterson:

She had been colicky the evening before and we were able to give her some Banamine and she kind of came out of it. Then that morning of the 30th she was still a little uncomfortable and not eating. So we gave her some more Banamine and then, by the time I left for work, she was [inaudible 00:03:01] a bit and had passed some piles [inaudible 00:03:04]. I was still concerned and was able to get off work a little early and come home to check on her. And when I looked in the barn about 2:00 that afternoon, it was evident that she was in distress.

Mary Patterson:

She had been rolling. She had some marks on the side of her head where she had obviously scuffed her face when she'd gotten down. I quickly got her to Iowa State University in Ames, which is about [inaudible 00:03:36] away from me. They have a great team there and they descended on her. And, as each test came in, it was just getting more and more grim. The tentative diagnosis they gave me was a nephrosplenic entrapment. This is where the gut is actually trapped over the ligament that supports the kidneys and the spleen. Not a good diagnosis.

John Dowdy:

No.

Mary Patterson:

That was my focus, just saving the mare. The surgery is probably, oh gosh, seemed like I was there for days, but a couple hours, three hours surgery where they have to remove the whole gut and bring it down and then go through each section of the intestine, which she did have a twist in her small intestine...

Janet Culley – My Horse was Depressed – Abused –

Life is Back After 9 years – Happy – Majestic – Running and Playing

 

John Dowdy:     Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety Podcast. We're going to swing up into Alabama. We've got Jan Coley on the podcast this week, and I'm going to tell you this story is... I'm just going to say it's unbelievable. If you're dealing with this scenario, a situation with your horse that you believe you're boxed in a corner and you don't have anywhere to go, you got to listen to this story. It's absolutely amazing and might even bring a tear or two, because this is the ultimate comeback story, I would say. So without further ado, Jan Coley, welcome to the Equinety Podcast.

Jan Culley:        Well thank you, and thank you for allowing me to tell my story.

John Dowdy:     Well, we're excited. As every week, I'm excited to have guests on and to share these stories, and I think this one is probably one of the most intense ones that we've had on. So let's just start from the beginning. Tell us about this horse. Well, let's just start from the beginning.

Jan Culley:        Okay. I bought Chino in 2006 I believe it was, beautiful horse. And I worked with him every day basically. Then I had someone come up and say, "Well, I know a good person who can train him." He was still a stallion. He was two years old, two and a half years old. I should have queried it more, but he was a farrier. The farrier was a farrier of mine who was very good, and it was his brother that supposedly trained horses. I just took it as it was a good thing.

John Dowdy:     Sure.

Jan Culley:        Of course we asked where do we take him, and everything, and made the arrangements and he loaded on the trailer without a problem. He was good as gold and went to this place where there was other horses but nobody around. And I thought, well, this is really strange. I hated to leave him, but they told me to put him in a stall and that they'd be there to work with him. Well, as far as I knew, that's where he was. Of course we took with us two big tubs, the huge tubs of grain for him, what he was having, plus bales of [inaudible 00:02:48]. So he had plenty of food and everything, and I never heard anything. So I called the farrier and I said, "Hey, your brother, is your brother working with Chino? What's going on?" And he says, "well, yeah, I said he had to move him." And I said, "really? Now where to?" And he said, "well to where he lived which was even... which was quite a ways away.

Jan Culley:        So I said, "well, I'd like to come and see him." Well he said, "well, he needs to just have at least a week to work with them, et cetera and so on." And he said, "and then after that it you are more than welcome to go and see him." So I guess some people they don't like anybody to be there that first week. So I said, "well okay, would you ask him to call me please?" And anyway, never got a call. And then I called the guy again and I said, "look, I need to go and see the horse. And he said, "well, here's my dad's number if you call him first and then he can give you directions." Well, I called the father and he said, "well, can you leave it another week?" He said, "we're really working with him right now." And I said, "no." I said, "I need to come and see him right now." This was like three weeks after.

John Dowdy:     Wow.

Jan Culley:        Must have been going on the fourth week. And so I got the address and everything and he says, "why don't you just leave it a few more days?" I said, "no, I'm coming right now." And we left and got there and I was almost sick. He was skin and bone. He was stood this cage like thing. I don't know what they used it for. It's still a lot. And he had a saddle on and that saddle had apparently been on him for days.

John Dowdy:     Holy cow.

Elizabeth Welch – Severe Foundered Horse –

Significant Sole Depth – Laminitis – IR – Picky Eater

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to another Equinety podcast. We are swinging up in the great state of South Carolina. We've got Elizabeth Welch on the coldest week. Elizabeth, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Elizabeth Welch:

Hi. Thanks for having me.

John Dowdy:

Well, it's always a pleasure. We're always excited and welcome, welcome. So let's talk a little bit about your background. You're in the hunters and the jumper world. How long have you been doing that?

Elizabeth Welch:

Oh gosh, pretty much since I was a kid. I started out doing the Hunters and I've dabbled in some other disciplines, but I always come back to the hunter jumpers. And then I got into the jumpers when I was probably in my late twenties, early thirties, somewhere in there. And I've been kind of doing both ever since.

John Dowdy:

Well, fantastic. And one of the reasons I reached out to you specifically is you had sent, or actually had posted, I think originally, kind of a testimonial. You'd commented on one of our Facebook ads about a mare that was foundered and you had noted that you could see a definite improvement in the feet or hooves and significant increase in soul depth. So I had reached out to you and you had sent some radiographs and things, and I asked for your permission to post those as an ad, which have been running for quite some time.

John Dowdy:

And although you were a bit apprehensive about doing the podcast, I sweet talked you into it, I think. So here we are.

Elizabeth Welch:

Here we are.

John Dowdy:

But one of the interesting things, I always find this a humorous myself, because you always have people that they comment on these things and here we're talking radiographs. And there's a lot of people like, "Oh my gosh, thank you so much for sharing." Because they're dealing with similar issues. We're talking about a foundered horse, and as we were chatting prior to recording, you also let me know this horse, it actually had IR and laminitis, picky eater, everything kind of hit at once.

John Dowdy:

But in regards to the actual x-rays that we are showing, of course you have naysayers, which I think are in any niche out there, that are saying there is no way that these are the same x-rays. And of course, you've been doing your best jumping in there, "Hey, these are mine and I've got a whole catalog..." And yada, yada, yada. But let's go back to the beginning of what this horse... I mean, it was perfectly fine. Then one day, it started showing signs of an abscess, but tell us what was going on and what happened from the beginning and about what the timeframe was on this?

Elizabeth Welch:

So it was roughly the end of September of last year, 2019, and the horse just sort of became acutely lame, but it was really concentrated in her right front and it really just presented like a horse that seemed like it was going to blow an abscess. The horse became acutely lame and it was lame in one foot. She never presented like a laminitis horse at the time. She never looked rocked back, never was trying to get all the weight off the front feet. So for a couple of days, we said, oh well, looks like she's going to have an abscess. And we kind of treated her like she was going to have a foot abscess.

Elizabeth Welch:

Obviously, it didn't seem like it was getting better. So I had already consulted with the vet and I said, "Well, let's have the vet obviously come out and take a look at this." And if it is an abscess, see if we can figure out where it is and try to get that treatment happening. And if it's not,

Monica Kay - Softer Shinier coat, stronger hooves,

muscle tone, more focused, faster recovery

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We are going to swing up into Ohio and we've got Monica Kay on the podcast this week. Monica, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Monica Kay:

Hello, thanks for having me.

John Dowdy:

Oh, you bet. It's a pleasure. We're excited to have another guest on this week. I first came across your posting. You actually had listed a review or posted a review on our Facebook page and it simply said, let me find it here, "We've had great results with our mare on Equinety. Such a difference in her coat, hooves and muscle tone, highly recommended." Now that was short and sweet, but the pictures you posted, tell a completely different story. For example, and we're going to have this posted on our website below this podcast so you can see the before and after photos, and not only was the coat dull to shiny, but the hooves, I think were the biggest difference. Although the before pictures were in wintertime, you could see that the hooves were ripply and kind of flared at the bottom and the after pictures looks like in the spring and sunlight, but you can see a significant difference in the hooves. Let's go back and how did you find this horse? What was going on with it when you first found it? Let's just start there.

Monica Kay:

Okay. Well, we found this horse that was for sale. We really didn't have the intentions of buying a horse, didn't really need another horse, but when we seen the condition that the horse was in underweight, its hooves hadn't seen a farrier in a year. It became a rescue mission where we knew that we had to get the horse out of that situation and start taking care of her. We did end up buying the horse and we noticed she had a little bit of speed on her and thought, "Well, maybe she could be my daughter's next speed horse or contester."

John Dowdy:

Right, and she's interested in barrels and poles and things of that nature.

Monica Kay:

Right. Correct, correct.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, so when you got her home, obviously, you had mentioned she was kind of a rescue mission at this point, but so we would assume you probably vet checked and started putting a feed and nutrition to her. What kind of changes were you seeing just by doing that?

Monica Kay:

I mean, she started just the feed. She started putting on some weight, but I mean her coat still kind of looked dull. We got the farrier out right away to trim her feet and they still just, I mean, even being trimmed, they would grow funny. They had these ripples to them, they just did not look healthy.

John Dowdy:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), and then someone mentioned a product called Equinety Horse XL. Tell us about that.

Monica Kay:

Mm-hmm (affirmative), so a lady at one of the barns that I know, she has an older horse that was having some lameness and she started him on Equinety and noticed a difference that he wasn't as stiff, and she mentioned it. Then we had been talking to Danielle Bowser and she mentioned that all their horses are on Equinety so we thought, "You know what, we're going to try it. People rave about it," so we just took the leap of faith and got some Equinety.

John Dowdy:

Awesome, and how long were you using the product before you started noticing changes?

Monica Kay:

Within a few weeks, I would say to notice the changes, especially in her personality and her muscle tone and her coat, health slowly came on too. I mean, I would say within a few months all of it came together and we noticed a huge difference. When we first got her,

Equinety Ultimate OEC Launches - Dr. Zach Bruggen DVM -

Flaxseed Omega 3 - Vitamin E - Colloidal Silver

 

John Dowdy:                 Hello and welcome to this week's Equinity podcast. We're going to swing out into the great state of Arkansas next to my old Oklahoma stomping grounds. We've got Dr. Zach Bruggen, veterinarian on the line. Doc, welcome to the Equinity podcast.

Dr. Bruggen:                 Hey John, how are you? I'm excited to be here and talking about what we got coming down the line with the Equinity line of products.

John Dowdy:                 And other things. Yes. You almost let the cat out of the bag, which is perfectly fine. For almost five years we've been on the market now with the Equinity Horse Excel, which is a 100% pure amino acids. There is no fillers, sugars, starches. There's no loading dose. It has a really taken on a life of its own. It's one of the reasons why we started the podcast. I guess you found out about the Equinity Horse Excel probably a couple of years ago, I'd say, thereabout.

Dr. Bruggen:                 Yeah, that's right.

John Dowdy:                 So. Go ahead.

Dr. Bruggen:                 I was just introduced to the product on social media and then here in the community, hearing horse people talk about it and the results that they were experiencing with their horses. I'm always down to try some of the supplements out on the market with my own horses and get a feel for what's out there, which is what I ended up recommending to my clients for their horses. It was really imperative for anything that I recommend that I try it myself and my horses. I gave Equinity a try and have been super impressed with not only my horses response to it, but also all of my clients as well.

John Dowdy:                 Sure. Now when you first saw the product and saw the combination of amino acids, what was your initial thought? Because, being in the veterinarian field, and we talk to a lot of veterinarians on this side. It all depends on the school they come from. Some of them are like, "Oh my gosh, I've never seen a combination like this." Others are like, "They're amino acids." I guess that's typical in any field. What was your reaction and thoughts when you first saw it?

Dr. Bruggen:                 My thought was that it was formulated perfectly because it's pure amino acids. It was at a concentration that I knew was going to be efficacious for the horse. Amino acids are the building blocks for all the proteins of the body. We know that this is essential for horses to basically go throughout the day and do what we ask them to do. Whether that's trail riding, performance riding, or even just being a pasture pet. Looking closely into the ingredient list, we know that there's not any fillers. It is just plain amino acids which are bio-available to the horse that they can utilize to help regenerate and recover the cells that are undergoing compromise. I thought that the product had a very solid foundation. There's plenty of studies out there that support the supplementation of amino acids in human medicine. I knew that that would translate over to the horses just because of the pure foundation of what amino acids are and then what they provide for the body.

John Dowdy:                 Sure. Without getting too in depth on this particular podcast, as we get into the nutritional aspect, and again, taking into consideration, depending on what part of the country you're in, sometimes you have to supplement more of one thing and other people don't. Speaking from our side and what this Equinity Horse Excel to us, every horse in every part of the country and in other countries, they all seem to be benefiting from this stack of amino acids that we have in a Equinity Horse Excel. It doesn't matter if it's a high performance born that gets the creme ...

Beverly Ann Detlefsen - Easy Keeper – Heaves –

Depressed - Faster Recovery – More Focused

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We're going to keep it right here in the sunny state of Florida we've got Beverly [Detleson 00:00:08] on the Equinety podcast this week. Beverly, welcome to the call.

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

Hi, how are you?

John Dowdy:

I'm doing very well. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your Equinety story. I believe I came across your story because you posted a review on our Facebook page. I'm like wow, that's pretty intense. I reached out to you and here we are. Tell us about your horse and kind of what was going on there and let's just start there.

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

All right, well Jasper is a, he'll be coming 15 years old this next year. We've owned him his whole entire life. He was born here at our farm in [Alottey 00:00:52]. His mama was actually my horse so it was kind of cool. Kind of felt like he had to be my horse because his mom was my horse. I sent him out to Oklahoma two years ago because I was going to nursing school and we had a close friend out there that didn't mind taking him at the time. He recently came home after he only had a little trouble out there. I knew, I wasn't sure what all he was going to need whenever he came home but I wanted him to be on Equinety because I had him on it prior two years ago whenever he left.

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

He did so great on it then, it was helping him run better, run stronger, recover faster and the lady that went out there to pick him up, her name is [Diane Fryer 00:01:38]. She knew Jasper prior to whenever he went out there. She called me, she was like hey I just want you to know that this is, this isn't the horse you sent out there. You just need to prepare yourself. I really wasn't sure what she meant by that. I was just trying to prepare myself and when I opened the trailer door he was thin, his hair was, his tail was falling out and he wasn't really there mentally. He was just kind of a horse that was there. I started him on Equinety immediately because God knows he needed all the help he could get.

John Dowdy:

Now before you go any further you had already had him on Equinety prior to sending him out to Oklahoma and what kind of personality did he have?

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

He's always been very nosy, a little bossy, always kind of in your pocket, very personable and always has something to say about everything. He's a true one on one horse for sure.

John Dowdy:

Yeah so you sent him out there because it was at the time going to be the best place for him because you're going to nursing school. He was out there what, for a couple of years?

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

Yes, for two almost years almost to the date actually.

John Dowdy:

You were kind of forewarned coming back that it was not the horse that you sent out there so what did you find when he came off the trailer?

Beverly Ann Detlefsen:

When I opened the trailer door I never, he's a very easy keeper. I'm going to throw that out there before I say this. I mean he's a very easy keeper, always has been his whole life. He was so [inaudible 00:03:17] I mean he was just, he looked okay from the side his ribs were showing but looking at him front and back he was so narrow. You could see his tailbone sticking up, you could just feel his chest bone in between his front legs which I have never actually experienced with a horse. I was absolutely blown away that he was in that condition.

John Dowdy:

Wow, that had to be really, really tough especially sending him out here thinking that he'...

Holly Ann Such – Cushings – Healthier Coat – More Spry -

Thin Soles – Feeling Better – Stopped Swaying in Stall

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety Podcast. We're going to swing over into St Augustine, Florida. And we've got Holly Ann Such on the Equinety Podcast this week. Holly, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Holly Ann Such :

Thank you so much. I'm very excited to be here.

John Dowdy:

Well, we're excited to have you as well for another great story. I actually came across one of your comments on our Facebook advertising, and what caught my eye was you said, "This stuff works!" with three exclamation points. And then the next line is what got me. You said you were contemplating, "putting my mare down, because she was always in so much pain with her thin sole." So this was a last ditch effort. So tell us about your mare, what her... She's retired now, but what she was doing in her previous life, how long you've had her, and what you were dealing with?

Holly Ann Such :

So originally my mare came over from the Netherlands as a jumper, and after she retired from that, we decided to put her into dressage. So my trainer and I worked her up the levels, and we just always knew that her feet weren't fantastic. So we thought being in dressage was probably the best way for her to go. And even in the dressage work, the pressure was too much. She would always end up blowing an abscess, and then we would heal her from that one, get her back in shape, and then another one. It was just a rotating door. We were never really able to keep her sound much longer than a few weeks at a time. So at that point I decided the best thing for her was for me to go ahead and retire her about four years ago, when she was 16.

John Dowdy:

Right. And so with as you're describing one hoof issue, then the next one I picture when I would take my son to a Chuck E. Cheese, and that one little game where you had the big mallet, and you're trying to whack each one of the little things, the clowns that are popping up. It's like you get this one fixed, and then you got one over here, and then one over here. So it was just a battle all the time. And you were having to use a Bute as I understand, to try to deal with the pain. But she also had a great farrier. So you were able to manage with what you had pretty much all the time?

Holly Ann Such :

Yeah. Yes, pretty much. We tried to only give her Bute really every time we would put a new set of shoes on her, or we would try something different with her, she would get really, really sore. And we tried everything from pads, glue on shoes, every type of different shoe you could think of. My farrier and my vet even contacted other, at some farriers around the United States to get ideas about what to do with her. And just nothing seemed to work. And she would just be in so much pain after each trimming that we would have to give her Bute just to make her comfortable.

Holly Ann Such :

And then within the last probably six, seven months, she was just in so much constant pain all the time that we started her on a daily dose of Bute, which at that point is when I decided she probably didn't have the best quality of life. And that's when I was contemplating on having to euthanize her. So that's where we were as far as trying to keep her as comfortable as possible, because other than her feet, she's a pretty healthy girl, and everybody loves her. So we just wanted to do what we could for her, but.

John Dowdy:

Yes. Now in addition to the battling that you were having with her hooves, she's also a Cushing's horse. So you were dealing with things along that using Prascend, and dealing with lots of clippings from long coats.

051 - Elizabeth Downey - Chronic Bursitis - Lame to Sound Performance Horse

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We are swinging way up north, at least that's way up north for me. I'm down here in Southwest Florida. We're going across the border up into Montreal, Canada. Elizabeth Downey, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Elizabeth Downey:

Hi, John. I'm really happy to share my story with you.

John Dowdy:

Good. Well, we're excited to have you and I believe, as it is right now, you are our first Canadian guest here on the Equinety podcast, which is exciting.

John Dowdy:

Tell us a little bit about the horse that you have. You're in the barrel racing world. Tell us a little bit about the history of your horse and what you were dealing with prior to finding Equinety and then how you found Equinety and what your experience was in the initial stages.

Elizabeth Downey:

All right. So Heidi is a seven-year-old quarter horse that I purchased from my father. She was a roping horse before and I was looking for something to be a little bit more competitive at the show. So my dad said I should try this horse, and eventually she came to be really, really good. So I had some of my good friends, Karen [Chantaz 00:01:11], that was using the Equinety and I thought, I should really give it a try.

Elizabeth Downey:

So I put the mare on the product and she started really blooming during the season, went from 3d times to 2D times to 1D times. She was very focused and she was very constant to doing a run. So at the end of the year, I was talking to some vets. They were talking about the product saying it was a shake and I should not give that if I wasn't giving exercise to my horse. So not knowing any better, I stopped using the product. And when I started training the mare again for the next season, 2019, she came up really, really lame.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. So let me jump in real quick. So you started in the season with the Equinety product in 2018 through the summer. And this is where you started seeing all the benefits that you're clocking from 3D to 2D to 1D. You're just noticing obviously the faster times, but focus, recovery, the stamina and everything is going great.

Elizabeth Downey:

Yeah, exactly.

John Dowdy:

And then you get to the end of the season, 2018, you're coming around to beginning of 2019 and you show this to your vet and they just say, "Oh, well that's just like a shake. Don't waste your money?" That's kind of what you were told?

Elizabeth Downey:

Yeah, that was pretty much it. I didn't know any better and then I thought, of course, I'm going to try to keep some money around and then I stopped using the product is my biggest regret because when I started training the mare again at the beginning of 2019, I started having some really sore feet. Of course, there was different showing involved and stuff like that, but she just didn't look how she was the summer before. So I got her checked by the vet and then she started being lame. She was so lame at one point that you could tell it was a four out of five lame on a walk.

Elizabeth Downey:

So I tried with the vet different orthopedic shoeing. We tried pads, we tried degree pads, we tried egg bars, we tried to injection. I tried to keep her in the stall for a certain amount of time. I try to walk her. We tried just stuff from, I'd say, March until August and there was a lot of money involved into this.

Elizabeth Downey:

So I decided, you know what, I have nothing to lose. She was doing great when she was on Equinety. I'm just reading all those stuff, all those papers and all the people saying it's ...

Judy Collins – Roping Horses – Retired - Sinus Infection – Ring Bone –

Weak Hoof Walls - Strong hooves now barefoot – Happy and Sound

 

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week Equinety podcast. We're going to swing down into some serious horse country in Weatherford, Texas. We've got Judy Collins here on the Equinety podcast this week. Judy, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Judy Collins:

Thank you. Thank you for letting me tell my story.

John Dowdy:

Oh, absolutely. We're excited as always and what caught my eye, of course we run a lot of Facebook advertising and I believe it was you had posted a comment because you were dealing with an older retired horse, 30 years old and dealing with the sinus infection and you had asked if we thought this product would help. I think the short answer was yes, because it's always going to help with recovery, but tell us exactly what was going on with Hank and what you were dealing with for quite a while.

Judy Collins:

Well, Hank got an abscess tooth and we had no idea he had it. He had not gone off feed. He had not acted sick. And then we came home one night from a roping and he had discharge coming out of one side of his nose and it smelled terrible, it reeked. You could smell it the minute you walked into the barn. And we FaceTimed my son and his wife are vets here in Weatherford and they said, "Well he has an abscess tooth. Bring him into the clinic. We'll take care of it." We took him to the clinic and they couldn't get the tooth pulled and they did an X-ray of his sinus cavity and it was full of infection, so they ended up having to do a surgery. And they did the surgery. They kept him for a week and treated him there at the clinic.

Judy Collins:

And then we brought him home and in this process they had drilled a hole in between his eyes on his forehead for this infection to drain out. And then we had to take a tube and put it in that hole and flush those sinuses out and we did that for about a month and a half until the hole finally closed up. And he was on strong, strong antibiotics the whole time this was happening. As soon as he went off the antibiotics, about two or three weeks, we started getting the discharge again and the strong odor. And so we just have to keep putting him on antibiotics. And they tried multiple brands of antibiotics and as soon as he would go off it would come back. So then we ultimately ended up doing a second surgery and this time they put a port in his forehead and we still had to go back to all the flushing.

Judy Collins:

And we did that for about another month, three weeks to a month and then they took all that out. And again, we just were constantly the sinus infection. And as soon as he would go off antibiotics, it would start back up again. And so we did this for two years on and off with antibiotics. We did a hair analysis with vet in Pilot Point and had supplements made specifically for him to help build his immune system up and so on. And during all that, we were still battling this. It just wasn't going away. I'd seen an ad on Facebook for Equinety and I messaged you guys and I asked, "This is what we're dealing with, do you think this will help?" And your response was certainly you thought it would help, so I was willing to give it a try and we tried it and we bought the big tub, which is a 90-day supply and about 60 days into it I started seeing a difference and he had been on antibiotics the first month with it, we'd taken him off and I would say by the end of the 90 days we were at a point where there was no antibiotics at all anymore.

John Dowdy:

Wow.

Judy Collins:

Yeah, we were very impressed and that was the only thing we had changed in his routine was the Equinety.