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Peak Legacy is officially a paper format.
On August 16th, we held the first-ever paper Peak Legacy event, bringing together 10 players and 8 different archetypes for a tournament that was as much about exploring an old format as it was about competing.
The event was won by Grixis Control, featuring Baleful Strix, Gurmag Angler, Snapcaster Mage, Kolaghan's Command, and a pile of spicy one-ofs and unusual numbers.
We break down the decks that showed up, including Grixis Delver, Infect, Dark Maverick, Goblin Stompy, Lands, Death & Taxes, and Phil's Blue-White Miracles list.
But the most exciting part wasn't necessarily the winner. It was seeing what happens when you take a historical Legacy format and give players the time and incentive to explore it without another set immediately changing everything.
We talk about:
We're planning to keep the momentum going with more Peak Legacy events in NYC, with the goal of eventually getting close to a monthly event.
If you're interested in Peak, Classic, Premodern, Pre-War, or other locked Legacy formats, subscribe to Returnal Durdles. This is where we're building that community.
Peak Legacy is officially a paper format.
On August 16th, we held the first-ever paper Peak Legacy event, bringing together 10 players and 8 different archetypes for a tournament that was as much about exploring an old format as it was about competing.
The event was won by Grixis Control, featuring Baleful Strix, Gurmag Angler, Snapcaster Mage, Kolaghan's Command, and a pile of spicy one-ofs and unusual numbers.
We break down the decks that showed up, including Grixis Delver, Infect, Dark Maverick, Goblin Stompy, Lands, Death & Taxes, and Phil's Blue-White Miracles list.
But the most exciting part wasn't necessarily the winner. It was seeing what happens when you take a historical Legacy format and give players the time and incentive to explore it without another set immediately changing everything.
We talk about:
We're planning to keep the momentum going with more Peak Legacy events in NYC, with the goal of eventually getting close to a monthly event.
If you're interested in Peak, Classic, Premodern, Pre-War, or other locked Legacy formats, subscribe to Returnal Durdles. This is where we're building that community.
Bilbo has been showing up everywhere—but I think we may have found one of the most interesting homes for him yet.
Zac and Phil take a first look at Eight Emery, a new take on the classic Artifacts Blue / Affinity Stompy shell that uses Bilbo, Emery, and Loki, God of Mischief as a redundant set of powerful artifact engines.
The idea is simple: instead of relying on Thoughtcast and Thought Monitor to generate card advantage, the deck uses Bilbo and Loki alongside Emery to repeatedly recur artifacts, generate value, and grind through removal.
We break down:
And most importantly:
Is Eight Emery actually better than traditional Eight-Cast?
Bilbo has been showing up everywhere—but I think we may have found one of the most interesting homes for him yet.
Zac and Phil take a first look at Eight Emery, a new take on the classic Artifacts Blue / Affinity Stompy shell that uses Bilbo, Emery, and Loki, God of Mischief as a redundant set of powerful artifact engines.
The idea is simple: instead of relying on Thoughtcast and Thought Monitor to generate card advantage, the deck uses Bilbo and Loki alongside Emery to repeatedly recur artifacts, generate value, and grind through removal.
We break down:
And most importantly:
Is Eight Emery actually better than traditional Eight-Cast?
The Premodern Threat Levels are back, and this time we have three months of new data to dig through.
Zac and Phil revisit the cards they've been tracking across the format, using the Blackman threat metric to measure both how widely cards are played and how many copies appear in those decks. The new browser extension makes it easier than ever to snapshot the format and compare how these numbers change over time.
We look at Swords to Plowshares, Counterspell, Wasteland, Mishra's Factory, Mogg Fanatic, Phyrexian Dreadnought, Parallax Wave, Survival of the Fittest, Grim Lavamancer, Jackal Pup, Terravore, Exalted Angel, Wall of Roots, Wall of Blossoms, Squee, Masticore, Chain of Vapor and more.
Then Phil discovers something potentially much more important:
ZOMBIE TRAILBLAZER.
Is this the next great Premodern brew? Probably not.
But we're absolutely going to find out.
00:00 — Welcome to Returnal Durdles
01:36 — Premodern Threat Levels Are Back
02:01 — The Cards We're Tracking
03:27 — Swords to Plowshares
04:27 — The Threat Level Extension
05:01 — What Is a Blechman?
05:36 — What Does a Threat Level Actually Mean?
06:50 — Premodern Is a Healthy Format
08:28 — Gush Is Everywhere
09:19 — What Is Premodern's Next Most-Played Land?
10:27 — Counterspell Breaks the Data
11:08 — City of Brass?!
11:32 — Mogg Fanatic Is Everywhere
12:16 — The Goblins Math
14:34 — Goblin Sharpshooter Needs More Respect
16:03 — The Phyrexian Dreadnought Package
17:28 — Dreadnought vs. Parallax Wave
19:19 — Survival of the Fittest & Squee
20:40 — Jackal Pup & Burn
22:00 — Portent Is Apparently a 4-of
22:21 — Terravore & Wall of Roots
23:20 — Exalted Angel Falls Off
24:17 — Where Is Meddling Mage?
25:30 — Wall of Blossoms Is Disappearing
25:54 — The Zombie Trailblazer Discovery
27:06 — THIS CARD IS BUSTED
28:36 — "It Dies to Swords"
29:28 — How Many Blackmans Is Zombie Trailblazer?
30:13 — The Deepest Part of the Data
31:24 — Orcish Lumberjack Is MOVING
33:09 — More Zombies?!
33:55 — Zombie Trailblazer Deck Incoming
34:54 — Masticore & Chain of Vapor
35:52 — Dark Ritual Is a 36-Blackman Card
36:03 — Stifle & Portent
37:09 — Subscribe to Returnal Durdles
38:46 — Why Your Subscription Matters Right Now
39:14 — The Zombie Trailblazer Challenge
40:11 — Final Thoughts
The Premodern Threat Levels are back, and this time we have three months of new data to dig through.
Zac and Phil revisit the cards they've been tracking across the format, using the Blackman threat metric to measure both how widely cards are played and how many copies appear in those decks. The new browser extension makes it easier than ever to snapshot the format and compare how these numbers change over time.
We look at Swords to Plowshares, Counterspell, Wasteland, Mishra's Factory, Mogg Fanatic, Phyrexian Dreadnought, Parallax Wave, Survival of the Fittest, Grim Lavamancer, Jackal Pup, Terravore, Exalted Angel, Wall of Roots, Wall of Blossoms, Squee, Masticore, Chain of Vapor and more.
Then Phil discovers something potentially much more important:
ZOMBIE TRAILBLAZER.
Is this the next great Premodern brew? Probably not.
But we're absolutely going to find out.
00:00 — Welcome to Returnal Durdles
01:36 — Premodern Threat Levels Are Back
02:01 — The Cards We're Tracking
03:27 — Swords to Plowshares
04:27 — The Threat Level Extension
05:01 — What Is a Blechman?
05:36 — What Does a Threat Level Actually Mean?
06:50 — Premodern Is a Healthy Format
08:28 — Gush Is Everywhere
09:19 — What Is Premodern's Next Most-Played Land?
10:27 — Counterspell Breaks the Data
11:08 — City of Brass?!
11:32 — Mogg Fanatic Is Everywhere
12:16 — The Goblins Math
14:34 — Goblin Sharpshooter Needs More Respect
16:03 — The Phyrexian Dreadnought Package
17:28 — Dreadnought vs. Parallax Wave
19:19 — Survival of the Fittest & Squee
20:40 — Jackal Pup & Burn
22:00 — Portent Is Apparently a 4-of
22:21 — Terravore & Wall of Roots
23:20 — Exalted Angel Falls Off
24:17 — Where Is Meddling Mage?
25:30 — Wall of Blossoms Is Disappearing
25:54 — The Zombie Trailblazer Discovery
27:06 — THIS CARD IS BUSTED
28:36 — "It Dies to Swords"
29:28 — How Many Blackmans Is Zombie Trailblazer?
30:13 — The Deepest Part of the Data
31:24 — Orcish Lumberjack Is MOVING
33:09 — More Zombies?!
33:55 — Zombie Trailblazer Deck Incoming
34:54 — Masticore & Chain of Vapor
35:52 — Dark Ritual Is a 36-Blackman Card
36:03 — Stifle & Portent
37:09 — Subscribe to Returnal Durdles
38:46 — Why Your Subscription Matters Right Now
39:14 — The Zombie Trailblazer Challenge
40:11 — Final Thoughts
The Hobbits are coming to Magic, but how much are they actually going to change Legacy?
Zac and Phil go through the new Hobbits from Vetter Breath cards and find something surprisingly refreshing: there aren't that many cards worth talking about for Legacy.
We break down the eight cards that caught our attention, including Bilbo, Thief in the Night, The Great Goblin, Giant's Boulder, Thirandil, the Elven King, Inside Information, Bilbo's Gambit, Plunder the Trollshaws, and Riddles in the Dark.
Bilbo is the clear standout, looking like a powered-up version of a card that's already on Legacy's banned list. But does that actually make him a problem?
We also discuss:
If we missed a card, let us know in the comments.
And if you're done with Universes Beyond and want to play Classic, Peak, Pre-War, or Premodern, check out Returnal Durdles.
00:00 — The Hobbit Set Isn't Breaking Legacy
00:57 — Flavor vs. Power Level
02:37 — The Storied Mechanic Is Metalcraft+
04:40 — Urza's Saga Is Already Storied?!
05:56 — Why We're Building Locked Formats Instead
06:48 — Peak Legacy Event Announcement
07:17 — Bilbo, Thief in the Night
10:02 — The Great Goblin
12:55 — Giant's Boulder vs. Astrolabe
16:27 — Does Giant's Boulder Work With Scry Payoffs?
17:40 — Thirandil, the Elven King
19:40 — Inside Information
21:36 — Bilbo's Gambit
24:30 — Bilbo Is an EDH All-Star
26:29 — Plunder the Trollshaws
27:39 — Riddles in the Dark
28:48 — Riddles vs. Fact or Fiction
30:14 — Just Play Three Wishes
31:27 — The Eight Cards That Matter
32:00 — Why We're Happy the Power Level Is Lower
32:40 — Returnal Durdles & Locked Formats
33:00 — Submit Your Own Legacy Takes
Timestamps
The Hobbits are coming to Magic, but how much are they actually going to change Legacy?
Zac and Phil go through the new Hobbits from Vetter Breath cards and find something surprisingly refreshing: there aren't that many cards worth talking about for Legacy.
We break down the eight cards that caught our attention, including Bilbo, Thief in the Night, The Great Goblin, Giant's Boulder, Thirandil, the Elven King, Inside Information, Bilbo's Gambit, Plunder the Trollshaws, and Riddles in the Dark.
Bilbo is the clear standout, looking like a powered-up version of a card that's already on Legacy's banned list. But does that actually make him a problem?
We also discuss:
If we missed a card, let us know in the comments.
And if you're done with Universes Beyond and want to play Classic, Peak, Pre-War, or Premodern, check out Returnal Durdles.
00:00 — The Hobbit Set Isn't Breaking Legacy
00:57 — Flavor vs. Power Level
02:37 — The Storied Mechanic Is Metalcraft+
04:40 — Urza's Saga Is Already Storied?!
05:56 — Why We're Building Locked Formats Instead
06:48 — Peak Legacy Event Announcement
07:17 — Bilbo, Thief in the Night
10:02 — The Great Goblin
12:55 — Giant's Boulder vs. Astrolabe
16:27 — Does Giant's Boulder Work With Scry Payoffs?
17:40 — Thirandil, the Elven King
19:40 — Inside Information
21:36 — Bilbo's Gambit
24:30 — Bilbo Is an EDH All-Star
26:29 — Plunder the Trollshaws
27:39 — Riddles in the Dark
28:48 — Riddles vs. Fact or Fiction
30:14 — Just Play Three Wishes
31:27 — The Eight Cards That Matter
32:00 — Why We're Happy the Power Level Is Lower
32:40 — Returnal Durdles & Locked Formats
33:00 — Submit Your Own Legacy Takes
Timestamps
What happens when you take a Magic format from 10 years ago and attack it with everything we've learned since?
That's the experiment behind Peak, Classic, and the other locked formats we're exploring on Eternal Durdles.
Instead of simply copying old tournament lists, Zac and Phil discuss how modern deckbuilding theory can reveal cards, strategies, and entire archetypes that may have been overlooked when these formats were originally played.
Phil has been digging through old Miracles lists and finding cards like Unexpectedly Absent and Sylvan Library that seem dramatically underexplored. Zac is doing the same thing with Classic and Peak decks, looking for forgotten strategies that might be ready for a second life.
We also talk about:
And yes, Zac has acquired Un-Glued Islands.
00:00 — Why Locked Formats Are So Exciting
01:25 — The First Big Peak Event
02:45 — Don't Just Copy Old Decklists
03:45 — We Know More About Magic Now
04:15 — Phil's Miracles Rabbit Hole
07:50 — The Unexpectedly Absent Breakthrough
10:40 — Why Nobody Played Sylvan Library
13:30 — The Untapped Territory of Locked Formats
15:20 — Optimizing Forgotten Classic Decks
17:45 — Getting Lost in the Sauce
19:45 — Zac's TradeMagic Pickup
22:00 — Esperzoa: The Forgotten Brew
24:45 — What If We Rebuilt These Decks Today?
27:00 — The Nahiri Miracles Experiment
30:20 — Why Old Decks Were Never Fully Explored
31:55 — Come Play Peak!
33:20 — Locked Formats Beyond Nostalgia
34:00 — Welcome to a New Magic
What happens when you take a Magic format from 10 years ago and attack it with everything we've learned since?
That's the experiment behind Peak, Classic, and the other locked formats we're exploring on Eternal Durdles.
Instead of simply copying old tournament lists, Zac and Phil discuss how modern deckbuilding theory can reveal cards, strategies, and entire archetypes that may have been overlooked when these formats were originally played.
Phil has been digging through old Miracles lists and finding cards like Unexpectedly Absent and Sylvan Library that seem dramatically underexplored. Zac is doing the same thing with Classic and Peak decks, looking for forgotten strategies that might be ready for a second life.
We also talk about:
And yes, Zac has acquired Un-Glued Islands.
00:00 — Why Locked Formats Are So Exciting
01:25 — The First Big Peak Event
02:45 — Don't Just Copy Old Decklists
03:45 — We Know More About Magic Now
04:15 — Phil's Miracles Rabbit Hole
07:50 — The Unexpectedly Absent Breakthrough
10:40 — Why Nobody Played Sylvan Library
13:30 — The Untapped Territory of Locked Formats
15:20 — Optimizing Forgotten Classic Decks
17:45 — Getting Lost in the Sauce
19:45 — Zac's TradeMagic Pickup
22:00 — Esperzoa: The Forgotten Brew
24:45 — What If We Rebuilt These Decks Today?
27:00 — The Nahiri Miracles Experiment
30:20 — Why Old Decks Were Never Fully Explored
31:55 — Come Play Peak!
33:20 — Locked Formats Beyond Nostalgia
34:00 — Welcome to a New Magic
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