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In this episode, I sit down with Nebraska archaeologist Nolan Johnson to talk about his work uncovering and interpreting the state’s rich historic past. We begin with the Beaver Creek Trail Crossing, a site that offers a glimpse into the experiences of travelers along the overland trails and the material traces they left behind. Nolan shares the story of how the site was investigated, what artifacts reveal about life on the move, and why these places remain important today.

In the second half, our discussion broadens to post-1492 archaeology across Nebraska, what makes it distinct, what challenges archaeologists face in preserving and interpreting recent pasts, and why connecting communities to these stories continues to matter.

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In this episode David sits down with Zach Lindsay, a Mayanist archaeologist and board member of the Institute of Maya Studies, to explore the intersection of Mesoamerican archaeology, art, mythology, and—of course—dogs! From the monumental pyramids of Teotihuacan to the symbolic underworld journeys of ancient Maya souls, Zach brings a journalist’s curiosity and an archaeologist’s precision to one of the world’s oldest human–dog relationships.

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In this third installment of the “Horse Series,” David sits down with Dr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover to explore the intersections of Indigenous oral traditions, radiocarbon dating, and the archaeology of horses across the Great Plains and the Caribbean.

Carlton shares how Pawnee oral traditions align with archaeological evidence, revealing new insights into the transitions from hunter-gatherer to agricultural societies. The conversation expands into how the reintroduction of horses revolutionized Plains warfare, movement, and culture — transforming not just how people traveled, but how they defined bravery, honor, and trade.

The episode then dives underwater — literally — as Carlton recounts his work with the Indiana University Underwater Science Program in the Dominican Republic. From Spanish shipwrecks to 400-year-old hazelnuts used to fight scurvy, the discussion highlights how horses, colonization, and trade converged across continents and oceans.

Topics Covered

• Introduction to Carlton Shield Chief Gover’s background and Pawnee heritage
• Merging radiocarbon dating with Indigenous oral histories
• The importance of corn, maize agriculture, and Plains village life
• How the horse transformed Indigenous cultures and warfare
• The practice of “counting coup” and individual honor in combat
• The spread of horses before European contact
• Carlton’s archaeological work in Ukraine and comparisons to the Great Plains
• Underwater archaeology in the Dominican Republic
• Spanish shipwrecks, horseshoes, and gold-gilded stirrups
• Hazelnuts as a 16th-century Spanish cure for scurvy
• Dangers and logistics of underwater fieldwork
• How early Caribbean horses may connect genetically to modern mustangs
• The future of Plains and underwater archaeology

About the Guest

Dr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover is a citizen of the Pawnee Nation and a leading voice in Indigenous and Plains archaeology. His research integrates oral histories, Bayesian radiocarbon analysis, and archaeological evidence to create a fuller understanding of the Great Plains’ deep past. He currently serves as Assistant Professor and Curator of Archaeology at the University of Kansas and hosts The Great Plains Archaeology Podcast.

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“When you reanalyze radiocarbon data with Indigenous oral traditions, you actually illustrate a much more holistic picture of human history.” — Dr. Carlton Shield Chief Gover

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Remembering Jane Goodall with Primatologist Carson Black

In this deeply heartfelt episode, David speaks with Primatologist, Biological Anthropologist, and Conservationist, Carson Black, who has spent her academic career studying chimpanzees in Senegal and howler monkeys in Costa Rica.

Together, they reflect on the life and legacy of Jane Goodall, the “living Darwin of the modern era,” and how her groundbreaking work continues to shape the way we understand both chimpanzees and ourselves.

Carson shares vivid stories from the field—bucket showers under the Milky Way, mischievous chimps throwing rocks, and the humbling power of seeing the world from their perspective. The two also discuss the history of primatology, the pioneering “Trimates” (Jane Goodall, Dian Fossey, and Biruté Galdikas), and the role of indigenous knowledge in modern science.

This episode serves as both a tribute to Jane Goodall and a reminder that anthropology isn’t just about the past—it’s about the relationships that continue to define what it means to be human.

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In this episode of Ethnocynology with David Ian Howe, I sit down with my good friend and former graduate school cohort member Cassidee Thornhill, Collections Manager at the University of Wyoming Archaeological Repository.

Cassidee’s research dives into the early contact era in Wyoming, focusing on the arrival and spread of horses before and during European colonization. We discuss her fascinating thesis work on the Black’s Fork River site, where a young foal was found buried alongside three coyote skulls—an extraordinary archaeological discovery that sheds light on early human–horse relationships on the Plains.

Topics we cover include:

• The Black’s Fork horse burial and its cultural significance
• Early radiocarbon dates showing horses in Wyoming decades before the Pueblo Revolt
• Evidence of early veterinary care and human–horse bonds
• How horses transformed Native economies, sovereignty, and resistance
• Genetic research linking early horses in the Americas to Spanish (and later British) stock
• The broader story of how horses reshaped Indigenous life across the Plains

Cassidee also shares her perspective on whether horses or dogs have been more influential in human history—a big question we love to ask on this show.

This episode is the extended interview version you won’t find on YouTube—perfect for listeners who want the full deep dive into Cassidee’s groundbreaking work.

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In this episode of Ethnocynology, host David Ian Howe sits down with archaeologist and anthropologist Dr. William Taylor (University of Colorado Boulder), author of Hoofbeats: How Horses Shaped Human History.

While this show usually focuses on dogs, today we shift to the other animal that transformed humanity: the horse. Dr. Taylor walks us through the evolutionary history of horses, their domestication on the Eurasian steppe, and their reintroduction to the Americas after the Ice Age. Together we explore how humans first interacted with horses—as prey, symbols in cave art, sources of milk and meat, and eventually as partners in transport, warfare, and belief systems.

Topics include:

• The origins of domestic horses around 2000 BC in the Caucasus steppes
• Horses evolving in North America, going extinct, and being reintroduced by the Spanish
• Hunting evidence from sites like Schöningen in Germany and Bluefish Caves in the Yukon
• Horses in Paleolithic cave art (Lascaux, Chauvet) and the Vogelherd ivory carving
• Evidence for early horse riding and chariot use in Egypt, Assyria, and beyond
• The role of horses in indigenous North and South American societies before widespread European contact
• Ethno-equine parallels in Mongolia, Australia, and Patagonia, where horses shaped cultural, spiritual, and economic life

This is Part 1 of a two-part series: next time, David speaks with Cassidy Thornhill of the University of Wyoming, who researches the protohistoric introduction of horses into the Americas.

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In this episode of Ethnocynology, host David Ian Howe sits down with friend and creator North02 to dive into one of North America’s most fascinating and overlooked archaeological stories—the Old Copper Culture.

Together, they explore how Native communities in the Great Lakes region began shaping some of the world’s earliest metal tools and weapons, thousands of years before metallurgy took hold in Europe. From massive copper swords and fishing hooks to spear throwers and intricate ornaments, this culture reveals a technological world far beyond the usual “stone tool” narrative.

We discuss:

• Why Michigan and the Great Lakes hold the purest copper deposits in the world
• How hunter-gatherers mined and hammered copper into tools as early as 9,500 years ago
• The mysterious rise and fall of copper mining, and why production suddenly stopped
• Connections to Paleoindian cultures like Clovis and Agate Basin
• The difference between copper use in the Americas and the Old World’s Bronze Age
• How copper shifted from practical tools to symbols of power and status

Along the way, North shares insights from his upcoming documentary on the Old Copper Culture, his hands-on experiments with copper tools, and why this forgotten chapter of prehistory deserves a place in public imagination.

If you’ve ever wondered whether North America had its own “Copper Age”, this episode will change the way you think about early technology, innovation, and the ingenuity of ancient peoples.

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On this episode of A Life in Ruins Podcast, David and Connor talk to Dr. Angela Perri about her lengthy CV and her academic/professional career. Dr. Perri is currently the top researcher in the world in terms of understanding the relationship between humans and dogs in the ancient world. So clearly, David's ears perked up.

As usual, we first dive into Angela's early life and career in anthropology, and talk about her interesting transition from a Las Vegas bartender and Oregonian undergrad, to being a PhD student in the UK.

We then discuss her time at Durham University and her dissertation research, which took her to Japan, Mongolia, and the American Southeast. We also talk about her time and research at the Max Planck Institute studying dog genomics and DNA. David and Connor also ask Angela multiple questions about dogs, dog domestication, and the human/dog relationship.

We then end on Angela's career advice and have a heart to heart conversation about mental health, Academia, and CRM.

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An Anthro Chat With Stefan Milo.

In this episode of ethnic psychology, David sits down with good friend Stefan Milo, archaeologist, YouTuber, and overall outstanding chap.

David and Steve catch up on recent anthropology news and discussed the recent archaeological findings at White Sands national Park, as well as the recent genetic findings surrounding Dragon Man, the Denisovans, and the peopling of the Americas.

David and Stefan also discuss the growing concern among content creators regarding automated intelligence and whether or not the recent advancements with AI video generation will put people like David and Stefan out of work.

Stefan is a brilliant guy, and this conversation is as educational as it is pretty funny. So be sure to give it a listen!

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On this episode of A Life In Ruins podcast, David interviews his former advisor Dr. Todd Surovell. Todd served as an advisor to David and was a committee member for David and Connor‘s MA theses.

David begins interviewing Todd about what archaeology means to him, and a discussion of his early life. The conversation later turns into how Todd found his way into anthropology, and his work in graduate school.

And in the third segment, Todd and David discuss Clovis archaeology, Clovis and Folsom culture, and megafaunal extinctions. Todd also discusses what it means to be human.

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