In this episode of Etymologies of Care, Paul is joined by newly licensed social worker Lauren Barragan, who has been part of the integrative relational health (IRH) journey since its earliest days. Together, they explore how IRH departs from traditional therapy models by recognizing that what we call “symptoms” are often intelligent responses to relational ruptures—not evidence of something wrong within the individual. Paul and Lauren trace the origins of IRH, discuss the paradigm shift from individual pathology to relational fields, and reflect on what it means to embody these principles in real-world practice. From navigating supervision and treatment plans to holding space for clients’ lived experience, this conversation is both deeply theoretical and grounded in everyday care.
Listeners will come away with a clearer sense of what IRH is (and isn’t), how to recognize relational frameworks in therapy, and why the simple act of genuine presence can be transformative.
Topics:
* The difference between technique-based therapy and relationship-based healing
* How integrative and relational approaches often fall short when separated, and why IRH combines them into a true paradigm shift
* The origins of IRH, from undergraduate research to developing a conceptual framework
* Why “there is nothing wrong with you” is both radical and easily misunderstood
* Navigating graduate training, supervision, and treatment planning while centering relational health
* Real-world examples of shifting from applying techniques to cultivating authentic relational presence
* The importance of trusting intuition when beginning therapy and recognizing if a therapist is working relationally
Suggested Practices:
* Notice relational context, pay attention to the quality of connection itself, not just content being discussed
* Practice authentic presence. In conversation, experiment with being genuinely present rather than trying to fix or solve something.
Episode Resources:
* integrativerelationalhealth.com
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