There are huge crowds expected in the town of Waitangi next week, where Waitangi Day is celebrated marking the day that the Waitangi Treaty was signed back in 1840 by Maori Chiefs and the Queens representatives. Now the current interpretation of the treaty is being challenged by a bill before the New Zealand parliament creating discussion and division about how the treaty should be understood.

Guest: Carwyn Jones, Lead Academic in the Māori Laws and Philosophy programme at Te Wānanga o Raukawa