What does it look like to examine your life without becoming consumed by it?

In this episode, Heather sits down with Scott Hubbard—Managing Editor at Desiring God and lay pastor at All Peoples Church—to explore the tension between self-reflection and self-forgetfulness. Drawing from his upcoming book Examine Yourself, Forget Yourself, Scott shares his personal journey through a season of intense introspection and the slow, grace-filled path toward freedom.

Together, they discuss:

• The difference between healthy self-examination and inward spiraling
• Why Scripture calls us both to look within and look beyond ourselves
• How to move from “being stuck in the room” to walking a road that leads somewhere
• The role of community, clarity, and Christ-centered focus in understanding ourselves rightly
• Practical rhythms for writers, thinkers, and anyone seeking a more grounded inner life

This conversation is both deeply theological and refreshingly practical—offering language and vision for anyone who has ever felt trapped in their own thoughts.

• Crime and Punishment
• The Writer’s Diet
• The Book of the Dun Cow
• The Whole Christ
• Examine Yourself, Forget Yourself (Scott Hubbard’s upcoming book)

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