When Broc Tickle was provisionally suspended by the FIM for a failed anti-doping test under the WADA code, it rekindled all the complex conversations about drug testing in this sport. Fallout and finger-pointing came quickly, and even though many fans and industry sponsors pledged support for Tickle, he's still suspended for an indefinite matter of time, and he still lost his ride with Red Bull KTM. (Aldon Baker was Tickle's trainer at the time of the failed test, so his name often gets pulled into the fracas as well.) In June, we phoned Tickle to get his side of the story while researching a feature on the topic for the latest issue of Racer X Illustrated. That story—"Lights Out"—can be read in our September issue, out now. For this episode of the Racer X Exhaust podcast, we present the full interview with Tickle.

The Racer X Exhaust Podcast is presented by Yoshimura.