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THE CARRIER BAG THEORY OF FICTON by Ursula K. Le Guin w/ curator Caterine Li

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ART BOOK CLUB is a segment where a guest brings a book which was not written with contemporary art in mind and yet is a source of inspiration, guidance and / or creativity for their work. This time, the chosen book by Catherine Li is: Ursula K. Le Guin's THE CARRIER BAG THEORY OF FICTIONIt's a very very short text that can basically change your life. With a simple shift in narrative, Le Guin demonstrates how we can totally change the narrative. But... how does this apply to curating?

What you get from this episode: Curating revelations, unexpected curating methods, lessons in community, art philosophies, ethical art questions.

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My Art Tools is a new segment where I ask artists about their preferred materials, their instruments of choice, where and when they like to use them. Artists think with their hands. Following their gestures and learning about their techniques tells us a lot about following one’s vision, about the pleasures of trusting an instinct, and the resilience it takes to work creatively.

I ask artists a simple question. In an endearingly geeky manner, the answers reveal fantastic methods and unimaginable stories. A big plus: hilarious little incidents and big misadventures that lead to a breakthrough, or a new possibility.

Oh, the question? “What tool do your swear by to make your art?”

This focus brings to the surface the importance of things we don’t mention, but also the mechanics of the mind, I’m told. The answers are… unexpected.

You'll be as surprised as I was to see what Marina Roca Díe and Anouk Mercier chose as their weapon of choice, you know, the thing to make the stuff.

What you get from this episode: Have you ever thought about the stuff art is made of? Wondered how artists make what you see in museums and galleries? How they train their hand, eye, body? Artmaking revelations, art techniques, lessons in resilience, art philosophies, ethical questions.

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Art Insider is an interview segment with fascinating figures of the art field who lift the veil on their corner of contemporary art. 

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Guest: Ben Luke (Host of A Brush With)

Ben Luke is an art journalist whose voice reaches a wider audience through his successful podcast A Brush With, where each episode is dedicated to an artist interview led by him. His new book, What is art for? Contemporary artists on their inspirations, influences and disciplines (2025, Heni), stems from it. The scope of his questions is aimed toward building a good perspective on what artists look at, listen to, and where they draw their energy, inspiration and creative flow from.  We discuss pop music and visual art crossover in the 80s and the boisterous 90s whose suppressed history Luke knows and shares brilliantly.

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Exhibition Chinwag is the original segment of the podcast where Joana invites professionals from other fields to visit and discuss the work of an artist through their solo exhibition. 

Guest: Susie Ridell Co-Producer and co-Host of the Podcast Limited Time Only

Exhibition discussed: Jenny Saville, The Anatomy of Painting at the National Portrait Gallery, from 20 June until 7 September 2025.

Check out images referred to in the episode here.

Key themes:

Painting; children in art; painting the body; the representation of the body, Jenny Saville

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Exhibitionistas Season 3: a constellation of 8 episode segments forming a twinkling view of our corner of the contemporary art galaxy, including its beautiful mysteries and free-flowing debris.

Starting: 5 September 2025.

Music by Sarturn

Featuring Catherine Li, Susie Ridell, Ben Luke, Marina Roca Díe, Sarah Le Quang Sang, Nick Taylor, and the O.G. Emily Harding.

Created & hosted by Joana P. R. Neves

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ART TRAVELOGUE is a new format, an audio/video journey with art as a destination. 

You'll find out about British artist Haroon Mirza's new commissioned piece (a performance and a sound installation) for Focal Point Gallery's exhibition In Other Worlds: Acts of Translation . By travelling with our host, curator Joana P. R. Neves, you hear about the people, the seascapes, the urban areas, histories of Essex's estuary, through the scope of Mirza's translation of electric sounds from an older piece into human voices. This journey will be told in Joana's voice but also through recordings of the artist, and the two curators of the exhibition, Inês Costa and Yates Norton. And finally, you'll arrive on site to experience the performance Adam, Eve, Others and a UFO for Choral Octet.

With works from The David and Indrē Roberts Collection by: Horst Ademeit, Michael Armitage, Frank Auerbach, Charles Avery, Jonathan Baldock, Fiona Banner aka The Vanity Press, Neïl Beloufa, David Birkin, Louise Bourgeois, Mark Bradford, Ulla von Brandenburg, Miriam Cahn, George Condo, Martyn Cross, Romany Eveleigh, Simon Fujiwara, Ellen Gallagher, Jim Goldberg, Pierre Huyghe, Anselm Kiefer, Haroon Mirza, Francesca Mollett, Nika Neelova, Antoni Tàpies, Danh Vo, Ai Weiwei.Focal Point Gallery is South Essex’s only public contemporary art gallery, open to all. The David and Indrē Roberts Collection features nearly 2,500 works by over 900 artists, dating from the mid-20th century to today. Curated by Inês Costa (Focal Point Gallery) and Yates Norton (The Roberts Institute of Art).

Instagram: @focalpointgallery @therobertsinstituteofart @

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Key themes:

Sound; light; sound art; translation; performance art; music and sound; the singing voice; translating sound to voice; knowledge; wisdom; contemporary art; new technologies; generative technologies; AI; Essex county, communication; shamanism; non-verba communication; understanding versus experiencing; anticipation and experience; the Genesis and science; theories of creation; language; art languages; orality; the written word; histories; history as myth; faith, myth and science.

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Chapters

00:00 Introducing Art Travelogue: The Journey From London to Southend Starts

07:58 Discovering Essex,The Most Misunderstood County in the UK

15:26 Mirza's 2013 piece Adam, Eve, Others and a UFO (Installation & Sound)

19:22 Electricity, Music, Communication and Shamanism

23:08 Communication and Translation Beyond Words

30:10 The Difference Between Knowing and Interpreting

37:12 The Performance: Canaan, The Choir, The AI, The Shaman

44:57 Myths of Creation: Gender, Language, Knowledge, Power

40:52 The Power of Words and Language

49:16 Outro

ART INSIDER EPISODE

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INTERVIEW with curators Gemma Rolls-Bentley and E-J Scott around their exhibition "Talisman", presented by Cardion Arts in Collaboration with The Museum of Transology.

https://cardionarts.org/2025-exhibition-talisman: Group exhibition of LGBTQIA+ artists from all over the UK, focusing on objects whose symbolic and energetic force infuse a sense of safety and protection, but also of resistance in queer lives.

Most of the artworks in the exhibition are for sale, and provide funds for AKT, the UK’s only charity dedicated to supporting LGBTQ+ young people facing homelessness ([email protected]).

Key Themes Explored in This Episode: The importance of inclusivity. Trans rights. Trans guidance. LGBTQIA+ art and artists. Queering the museum. Curating as an LBBTQIA+ person. Recentering female queer and trans narratives.Major Themes: Curating, Queer art, Museum Communication Strategies and Failures, Queer narratives, LGBTQIA+ art visibility, Lesbian histories, Trans histories, Audience Engagement, How to Engage with inclusivity. Art and activist. Non profit art organisations. Curating. Museums and heritage. New forms of curating. Exhibitions as safe spaces explores the importance of contemporary art spaces, museums and galeries for the LGBTQIA+ community.

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About us: Exhibitionistas is an independent podcast created and hosted by contemporary art curator and writer Joana P. R. Neves. www.exhibitionistaspodcast.com

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EPISODE: End of season episode where curator Joana P. R. Neves uncovers the richness of new perspectives on contemporary art through the ethos found in podcasting. Joana also shares insights from her attendance at the International Women Podcast Awards, highlighting the non-hierarchical nature of the podcasting community. Looking ahead, she teases new formats and changes for the upcoming season, while opening up about the need for engagement.

Exhibitionistas Podcast • June 27, 2025 • Episode 2x21 • 44:25

What You'll Learn from This Episode

Key Questions Explored:

- The podcast celebrates its two-season journey with 33 episodes.

- Joana reflects on the two origins and evolution of the podcast.

- Podcasting is transitioning into new formats and technologies–Joana reveals how this instills a new energy into art reviewing.

- Inclusivity and non-hierarchical structures as essential feminist values intersecting with podcasting.

- The role of the art critic is re-assessed and redefined.

- Biographical data should be used against the elitism plaguing art in a non-deterministic way.

- Museums contribue to elitism with the tools that should counter it.

- Engagement and feedback from listeners are learned but necessary behaviours.

- Joana sees podcasting as potentially extending the job market for art, provided there is financial sustainability.

Key Themes Explored in This EpisodeThe unexpected relation between art, podcasting and feminism. The importance of inclusivity within feminism for the host. How critical thinking can be accessible through artist biographies and avoiding myth-making through superlatives. Audience engagement is crucial for podcasting; there is a relation between the podcaster and their audience. Podcasting fosters connections and breaks the unilateral aspect of contemporary art experiences and discourse. The reasons why there is a difficulty in turning a podcast sustainable are varied: audience habits are analysed as well as the audience awareness of podcast work.

Major Themes: The Digital Format of Art Content, Ethics of Feminism in Podcasting, Museum Communication Strategies and Failures, Potential of Connectivity through the Accessibility of Podcasting, The Love and Respect for Art and Artist's time Dedication to Art, The State of Art Criticism Today, Contemporary Critical Thinking, Audience Engagement, How to Engage with a Podcast, The Importance of Paid Work in Podcasting. The importance of Understanding Podcasting with Critical Thinking and Writing, Art & Elitism, alienating audiences.

Measure Pleasure examines the love and dedication to contemporary art, by spectators, curators, critics and, conversely, its reputation of elitism.

Perfect for: Art students, gallery visitors, anyone curious about art discourse and critique, and fans of philosophy of art, contemporary art audience engagement strategies, podcasters and more specifically art podcasters.

Intro: 00:00:00

The feminism of podcasting: 00:03:24

Is the art critic obsolete?: 00:07:46

The value of biases: 00:08:48

Audience engagement: show your bias!: 00:12:24

Biography: 00:14:38

Do museums alienate audiences with declarations of greatness?: 00:20:06

Insights into art podcasting: 00:29:54

EXPECT SUMMER EPISODES!

NEXT SEASON: SEPTEMBER 2025 - JUNE 2026

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We have an interview episode! Gallerist Sarah Le Quang Sang showcases and promotes female and queer artists, fighting, one step at a time, to reduce the price gap between genders, the lack of LGBTQIA+ representation in archives, collections, art fairs and private collections, but also the linear conception of artistic careers.

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How empowering can the #artmarket be? How can a commercial gallery push boundaries? Be more inclusive? And what are the intersections between collections, trans rights, motherhood, family and queer communities? Sarah Le Quang Sang may not have all the answers, but she has all the good questions. She asks: why are birthdates important? Why is there an artistic career template? Who has access to museum collections? Art fairs?

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A new star in the constellation of London galleries, Sarah Le Quang Sang, established a commercial gallery in Shoreditch in 2024–SLQS–to champion female and queer artists. We mention her current exhibition of three Vietnamese artists, Vicky Do, Hua Dung-Clerget and Duong Thuy Nguyen, as well as the previous exhibition by trans non-binary artist Bex Wade which prompted an acquisition of their work by the V&A, now shown at Young V&A Bethnal Green.

We had to mention the Supreme Court Ruling in past April reducing gender to biological sex, and thus legally erasing trans women particularly, and the trans community in general. Bex Wade was invited to write about the photos of the exhibition (Queer nightlife in the US in 2010s, a time of lightness and joy) in the context of anti-trans movements rising and becoming more vocal. I read an excerpt of the text at the end of the episode.

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About us: If you enjoy the podcast A Brush With and You Are Good, you will enjoy Exhibitionistas, where artists are unveiled through current and pertinent angles, and through thoughts and feelings. These podcasts were a great inspiration for our format because they're nerdy and engaging, researched and approachable. The co-host and the guest co-host or interviewed guest engage in a conversation informed by an accessible and lively presentation of the subject, through which you can reflect on a show or a topic or discover it, learn or re-evaluate artistic topics crossing over into our everyday lives.

Chapters

00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:42 Sarah Le Quang Sang

00:11:07 First Connection to Art

00:14:12 Art and Motherhood

00:17:04 Adapting and Reinventing the Rules

00:22:12 The Impact of Galleries’ New Ethos on Collectors

00:23:03 Why Open a Commercial Gallery Now?

00:25:51 Responding to Women and Queer Erasure in the Market

00:28:13 How to Understand Identity in Art

00:41:02 Future of the program

00:48:13 An Excerpt from Bex Wade’s Text Yes / No (Art Review)

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Contemporary art is a feast for the senses. But have we reduced art to vision? And what does the hand do, now that we have machines and automated ways of making, editing and showing images? And what are images?

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This episode is the second audio/video essay of the season. It will take you on a trip to a sensory shift across times, blurring the boundaries between line, image, wall, surface, paper, and machines. Where the hand is, what it does and how it is re-articulated by automation is promising and exciting if we let it.

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I was invited to participate in a conversation on the occasion of the launch of Trajectories, Variations on a Gesture a book which is almost a sculpture or an exhibition in itself, containing 10 drawings made at Massana school of crafts (Barcelona) by Edouard Cabay. The director of the school, Xavi Capmany invited Cabay, an experimental architect and artist to bring his algorithmic practice at the heart of a school teaching manual crafts in order to create a dialogue between the different uses of the hand, of patterns, of the eye, the brain, muscle and memory. I dediced to start by reading a short text, which you can enjoy, in a longuer version, here.

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About us: If you enjoy the podcast If Books Could Kill and You Are Good, you will enjoy Exhibitionistas, where artists are unveiled through current and pertinent angles, and through thoughts and feelings. These podcasts were a great inspiration for our format because they're nerdy and engaging, researched and approachable. The co-host and the guest co-host engage in a conversation informed by an accessible and lively presentation of the subject, through which you can reflect on a show you've seen or discover it if you can't go, learn or re-evaluate artistic topics crossing over into our everyday lives.