April 24, 2026

Exploring with agents (Changelog Interviews #680)

1 hour 36 minutes

Today on the show I’m talking with Amelia Wattenberger — designer, data-viz veteran, ex-GitHub Next, and now designing Intent at Augment Code. What if the last 30% of any software project is about to become the hardest part you’ve ever done? That’s the argument Amelia is making today. We discuss the identity crisis developers are having as agents take over the keyboard, the epic redesign of developer tooling in this agent-first world, the arc from autocomplete to chat to CLI back to UI, why Intent treats a workspace as their core primitive not a chat thread, the tradeoffs between one-worktree-per-agent vs. one-worktree-per-task, and why she thinks prototyping just got easier but finishing got harder.

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Featuring:

Amelia Wattenberger – Website, GitHub, X
Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

GitHub Copilot — the launch that kicked off this era (mentioned ~12×)

GitHub Next — GitHub’s R&D team; where Amelia worked

GitHub Actions

Intent — Augment Code’s new workspace-first agent app that Amelia is building (the core product discussion)

Augie — Augment’s agent

Claude Code

Codex

Notion AI

VS Code

Incus — system-level containers/VMs; the Canonical LXD fork

Proxmox — Adam’s hypervisor platform for the sandbox

ZFS — storage layer Incus is built on

Bun — JavaScript runtime

Rust

Ruby on Rails

SvelteKit

Svelte

TypeScript

TanStack Start

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