Ezra Klein created the concept of The Green Pill—the namesake of this podcast. He is a world-renowned political journalist, founder of Vox Media, former columnist at the Washington Post, and host of The Ezra Klein Show. In this first episode, Wayne Hsiung and Ezra Klein discuss what happened to Ezra after he first took the green pill and how his life was forever altered.

“I want to normalize the idea that if you care about suffering, one of the categories of suffering you should care about is animal suffering.”

"The solution is not individual action, but there is no solution without individual action.”

Ezra's work at Vox

Ezra's book - Why We're Polarized

Ezra interviews Wayne Hsiung - Ezra Klein Show | When Doing the Right Thing Makes You a Criminal

Melanie Joy's book - Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows

Music by Moby: Everything That Rises