Ezra Klein ( columnist, The New York Times, podcast host “The Ezra Klein Show,” and co-author, “Abundance”) joins Chris Cuomo to explore why Americans have lost faith in liberal governance and what it will take to rebuild trust in public institutions. They discuss how government dysfunction, broken infrastructure, and media incentives have deepened polarization—and why Trump’s anti-government message is resonating. Cuomo and Klein also examine the failure of Democrats to articulate a vision of abundance, the impact of algorithm-driven media on political leadership, and how conspiracy thinking has filled the vacuum left by public disillusionment.

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