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Andrew Harmel-Law - Technical Principal at Thoughtworks & Author of "Facilitating Software Architecture"
Sonya Natanzon - Senior Director of Software Engineering at Guardant Health

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Andrew
https://bsky.app/profile/andrewhl.bsky.social
https://twit.social/@ahl
https://github.com/andrewharmellaw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewharmellaw

Sonya
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sonya-natanzon

Links
https://facilitatingsoftwarearchitecture.com
https://martinfowler.com/articles
https://www.thoughtworks.com/radar/techniques
https://www.cognitect.com/blog/2011/11/15
https://medium.com/@vanessamformicola

DESCRIPTION
Sonya Natanzon and Andrew Harmel-Law explore key concepts from Andrew’s book, fostering decentralized sociotechnical systems, emphasizing the importance of embracing imperfection in decision-making, and combating cognitive biases like the framing effect.

They highlight the shift to prioritizing learning, adaptability, and small, fast iterations in socio-technical systems. Andrew discusses psychological safety as vital for empowering teams to innovate while maintaining accountability, advocating for experimentation and collective ownership of

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