Series: NOT A FAN
Knowledge About Him or Intimacy With Him
Knowledge and belief don’t take the place for a true relationship
John 21:15-17
09/08/2013 FCC Pastor Jeff Williams
So, we’re off and running in the series to find a relationship today. DTR. I had one of those moments. And my relationship with my wife. We were young. I met my wife when I was 18 and she had just turned 17. So I was a sophomore in college. She was a senior in high school. And we had friendship and we were dating. No talk of marriage at that point, or anything like that, just friends, just getting together, having fun. We had some mutual friends, Zack, no, Nate and Julie. We did some things with them. We respected them and liked them a lot. They decided that they were not gonna split up, but they were gonna start seeing other people, just to make sure that you know, you knew who you want and the person you want to be with. So I thought that was an interesting thought. I talked to my Mom. I said, “Mom, what do you think?” She said, “You know, you should date other girls. Make sure you find the kind of girl you want.” So I bounced the idea off Branda. I said, “You know, Nate and Julie, they’re seeing other people. You know, they’re not breaking up. But maybe we should do that, too, just to make sure that we know we’re supposed to be together, whatever. We’ll just see other people on our own. What do you think?” She was not really as gungho as by his highways. We went ahead and did this little experiment.
And so I started building relationship, friendship with another young girl at our college as well. So she would have known about Branda and Branda knew about her. But they didn’t know each other. Then one day, all came to the head. I came to this basketball game. Before you get mad at me. Some you gave me the evil eye. I want you to remember I was 18. OK? I didn’t know I was gonna be a pastor. I didn’t know that I was getting married to her. So don’t put this, you know, “That’s your wife.” I was just trying to build a friendship with this girl. So there was this basketball game. Branda’d come to this basketball game. So did the other woman. All the places you could seat, all the bleachers, she sat right behind Branda. So Branda could hear everything she said right behind. She started talking about “Put in the basket. Put in the basket.” She was saying stuff, she was interested in me to her friend. After the game, Branda came up to talk to me. She said, “We got to talk.” It was DTR time. And she said, “This isn’t working. You got a choice to make. Either you’re gonna be with her or you’re gonna be with me. We got to decide. We’re serious here? Is this gonna be a committed relationship? Because I’m not gonna do this anymore? So you have to decide.” So I said, “You’re gonna give me ultimatum. Yea. Obviously. I’m choosing you.” She said, “OK, well then you need to let the other girl know.” So I went and let her know. That did not go well at all. But what we have done is we defined our relationship. We said, “From this point on, from this moment on, we are making a commitment to each other. I’m not gonna dating other girls. You’re not gonna dating other guys. And we are committed to building our friendship.” The DTR. From then on, we knew what was expected. That was 60 years ago. It seems like. I’m glad you still laugh, because it would come a time when people won’t laugh anymore. You know, I say, I make a joke like that.
But what is the DTR? What does God expect from us? What is preeminent of God’s expectation for you and for me? What is the standard? What is the measurement which he judges his relationship with us by? What does he want more than anything else? What do you think it is? How does he judges? Something is by knowing the right thing to say and believing the right stuff. Right? It’s to know the right thing to say and believe the right stuff. You can repeat it back. That’s kind of good enough. Right? Peter, for instance, had one of those talks with Jesus. In Matthew chapter 16, up to this point, Jesus has not disclosed directly who he was. He was more of a veiled thing. But now he is saying directly, “Who do you say that I am?” And Peter replies and answers, he says, “You are Christ, the son of the living God.” And Jesus replies, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.” He got it right. He believed the right things about Jesus. He said the right things about Jesus. Is that simply all God’s wanting us to do? Is that all? You get to heaven someday. You stand. You heard of the pearly gate. And St. Peter says, “Why should I let you in heaven. You simply recite a doctrine.” I believe you start reciting the apostle’s creed, whatever it is. He presses the button, and says “Ding! You got it right.” The gate’s opened up and you walk in. Is that the DTR? The Bible, right before this, Jesus preached the gospel for the first time. He’s led in this wilderness. Guess who else believed he is Christ, the son of the living God? The enemy. Right?
When I was in high school, we had a. I’ll tell you how old I am. There was McDonald’s next to our school. So, you go in the McDonald’s. And I can get a quarter pound of cheese, fries, and a medium drink for a dollar and get change back. That’s how old I am. If you want to leave right now, you can. So I did that. And there was promotion. And the lady was there with a stop watch. And she would say “go.” You had like 10 seconds or something. And you had to say “2 orders beef patties, lettuce, sauce, cheese, pickles and onions on sesame buns. It’s a Big Mac.” If you said that in time, you would get a free Big Mac. This promotion went on for a long long time. Right? And I got a lot of Big Macs out of that. Is that the criteria? You get to heaven. And Peter says “go.” I believe Jesus is the son of God. He is Christ, born of Virgin Mary. You just start saying all this stuff. Time’s up. You got to run. You are in. That’s not the standard. It’s important to have the right belief. It’s important to have the right confession. Say the right things and believe the right things. That’s important. The Christianity is much more than that. You find that the relationship is much more than just knowing the right stuff, saying the right words. What’s the standard? Listen to him talk. It’s like God grades on a curve, kind of. It’s like, you know, I am not as good as some Christians, like Mother Teresa, Billy Graham, really holly, and all that. You know, I’m better than this guy. I’m better than that guy. I know they do. I know what kind of person they are. I’m in the church. I’m better now. So we start playing this comparison game. God’s gonna accept me because I try harder. Right? I’m better than some. Peter tried to use this, too. Peter tried to impress the Lord. He loved him more than other guys.
Matthew chapter 16. Matthew chapter 26, excuse me, verse 31. The Lord’s super has been completed. They gathered in the upper room. Jesus began to talk about his sacrifice. They prayed together and sang together. It’s a wonderful moment, a bonding moment, a moment of deep friendship. After that, Jesus blows them away with what he’s about to say. He said, “This very night you will all fall away on account of me.” Not one of you, not one of you who broke the bread with me in my moment of greatest need is gonna stand with me. But every one of you will turn and run. Then he quotes a prophecy that says, “I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered. But after I have risen, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.” Peter interrupts his speech right there. He says, “Even if all fall away on account of you, I never will.” So right in front of everybody. All these apostles on the bus, he says, Jimmy, Fall, Johnny, they all desert you. I never will. I love you more than these guys. I am more committed to you than these guys are. I’m not perfect. I know sometimes I put my foot in my mouth. I know sometimes I make mistakes. And I get a little bit of short fuse. But I try harder. I love you more than these guys do. They might fall away. But you got it wrong about me, says Peter. Comparison game? When you grade in the curve, I’m gonna pass. Jesus says to him, I guess I was wrong about you, Peter. I take back what I said. Everybody but you. No. He says, “I tell you the truth. This very night, before the rooster crows, you will disown me three times.” Very specific, tonight, before morning, 3 times. Still not convinced, Peter declared, “Even if I have to die with you, I will never disown you.” All the other apostles said the same, us too, we love you, too. So they were in this a competition to say who loves him more. They were always doing it, always jostling, always comparing themselves, vying to be in a more prominent position than the other.
You’ve played the comparison game before, haven’t you? Maybe you played it in school with your other students. Maybe you played with your siblings. I’m a better kid than my brother, my sister. You know, Mommy loves me more. I love Mommy more. Maybe you do that at work with other employees. I’m not a perfect employee. But I’m better than that guy. He’s sleeping on the job, you know, showing up late. I am better than her. Husbands do it. Husbands’ wives do it with wives. I’ve been in conversation. We started talking about a particular husband. The wife would say, “He missed our anniversary again.” And I feel good. I say, I don’t miss our anniversary. I’m always the one who remembers our anniversary. And Oh, my husband, this guy, he hasn’t worked in a year. So I’m out there slaving, he’s just lying on the couch. I eat that up. I work. I provide for my family. Oh, so and so, he just yells at his wife all the time. He’s verbally abusive to her. He is just mean to her. I listen up and I’m thinking, I don’t do that to my wife. I don’t yell at my wife. I treat my wife with respect. I’m a pretty good husband. I mean I’m not perfect, but I’m better than those guys. That would get the goody tissue guy. I get into a conversation. We start talking about household chores. He’ll go, I do all the laundry. I mean, we’ve got to get out of here. I tell you, Oh, man, I know. We just got here. It’s time to go. He’ll go, I cook all the meals in our house. I’m behind him, going, quiet, who asked you? You start to make me look bad. I start comparing myself to that guy. Mr. goody tissues. He walks around with a vacuum cleaner all day while he’s cooking a meal. It’s like I don’t want to hear about you. Nobody asked you. Let’s go. Let’s get outa here. I don’t want hear any more from this guy. Right? He’s making me feel bad about myself.
We play the comparison game. There’s always somebody better. God doesn’t use that standard. No one in the scripture says God grades in a curve. What is this criterion then? What is it that God’s looking for more than anything else in his relationship with us? You know, when Jesus dies, Peter feels terrible. He feels terrible not only because he lost his friend and his Lord, but the way it ended. It ended with him denying Christ and vowing that he wouldn’t and he did. And Jesus died and he’s got no way to make it right. You know, when you lose a loved one, it’s hard, when you lose a loved one under those circumstances. Maybe your last discussion was an argument. Or maybe you failed them in some way. And you don’t have a chance to say, I’m sorry, to make it right. That makes the death even harder. So Peter is grieving the loss, but he’s also grieving the fact that he messed up so bad. But he has an opportunity to make things right. In John chapter 21. Remember after Jesus’ death, he’s gone. What does Peter say he’s going to do? What’s his plan? He says, I’m going fishing. By going fishing, he doesn’t mean I’m gonna get a can of worms and sit on a pier and recreate a little bit. Peter means he’s going commercial fishing. Big boats, big nets, marketplace, livelihood. That’s what he used to do. He was good at it. He misses it. He misses the sea, he misses the thrill of the catch, he misses making money. He wasn’t making money when he travelled with Jesus. He’s got to support himself. So he goes back to his trade, he goes back to what he knows.
So in chapter 21, they’ve been fishing, not fishing recreationally, they’re fishing to live. Jesus is there. He greets them. And they catch a large number of fish again. They bring in their boats, bring in their nets, they cook the fish. After that’s done. They’re done eating. Jesus has a private time with Peter. Verse 15, when they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you truly love me more than these?” What are the “these”? He’s talking about the other apostles? Did he say you love me more than these guys? That’s a pretty awkward question if that’s what he’s saying. Right? Your boss doesn’t come out in the work floor and say, OK, which one of the employees likes me the most. Right? Or your parent gathers around the meal and says, OK, kids, which one of you loves Daddy the most. That’s not a fair question to ask. That’s the question that might have appealed to Peter’s ego at one point. Right? He said, I love you the most. But he’s not talking about that. He’s not trying to put Peter in a place where he has to try to show himself up, like he loves Jesus more than the others. No. The “these” has to do, he’s probably pointing to boats and nets. Do you love me more than these? I originally called you to be a fisher of men. Do you still love me more than you love your boats, your fish, and your way of life? Do you still love me to sacrifice it all and follow me again? “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you truly love me?” Peter answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” We’ve talked about this passage. We’ve gone into the Greek word for love. There’s philia. There’s agape. And this word used here and that word used there. I just really want to deal with the heart of the passage, essence of the passage. When Jesus has another DTR talk with Peter, let’s define our relationship again, Peter. What is this all about? What is the most important thing on Jesus’ heart and mind? Peter can say it creed that easy. He is conformed so much to internal code. No. The number one thing, the number one passion that he’s looking for, is “Peter, do you love me?” He wants a relationship defined by love. That’s what Christianity’s supposed to be about. It’s supposed to be about love. Love the Lord with our heart, soul and mind and strength. It’s not about memorizing a set of doctrine you can speak, going through these religious rituals and croups. It’s about a love relationship. DTR time. Peter, are you fully committed to me? If you’re fully committed to me, that’s what is all about. If you’re fully committed to God, everything else falls into place, doesn’t it? If you love me, you feed my sheep. If you love me, you care what is important to me, you care for my creation. You’ll be passionate about the things I’m passionate about.
When I think of passion, one of the men I think about is a man by the name of John Muir. Have you ever heard of John Muir before? He is known as the father of the National Park System. Very important guy, born in Scotland, very strict religious upbringing, he had memorized the Bible. When he was a boy, he memorized the whole New Testament, and moved to. Guess where? Moved to Portage, Wisconsin. And then for education, he went to the University of Wisconsin in Madison. Eventually, that led him to the study of botany and nature. And eventually he travelled to west to places like Yosemite and to the Grand Canyon, to Yellow Stone. And when he visited those parks, there weren’t national parks. They were just land, just raw. There were no roads. There were no trails. He was just there. He fought to preserve the land. The land brings me closer to the Creator, when I’m in it. It belongs to the people. He pushed the President, the Congress, to set aside that land that belongs to all of us. It didn’t belong just to the rich, did not just to the state. It would belong to the whole country. Those parks are your park, my park. OK? Thank you for showing us. Very important man. I learned about him when we took a family vacation to Yosemite, a beautiful park that is. I learned the stories about John Muir. He just learned to love God and creation. He loved nature. When you love God, you care about the things that matter to God. And God cares about creation. So he wanted to identify with creation. You know when there was a thunderstorm, do you know what he would to? He literally climbed to the top of the highest tree he could climb. In the middle of the thunderstorm, he experienced what a tree experiences during the thunderstorm. When you and I are running for cover, he was climbing a tree. And he would get up and feel the wind and the rain. He would hear the thunder. He would see the lightning. I’m sure he was afraid. He would approach wild animals. Waterfalls they are there, they are beautiful. We might go around them, or near them, or up above them, looking down. Do you know what John did? He would climb under the waterfall. Like the water was raging over here, he climbed up the cliff, between the cliff and the waterfall, to experience a waterfall. Just some of the things he did. He had this passion that was so great. He had to be in nature. When he was in nature, he came alive. No matter where his life took him, he always was strung back to the parks, to Yellow Stone, to Yosemite, to Sierra Club he founded there, reservation.
Jesus is saying, if you love me, you’re gonna love what I love, you’re gonna care about what I care about. You’re gonna feed my sheep. See? He wants the lives to be defined by the word passion. Love and passion. That never becomes a rope, a routine, mundane. You know, I talked about meeting my wife at young age. You fall in love and you get married. When you’re in love, falling in love, it feels like you think about that person all the time. You want to be with them all the time. There are plenty of excuses to be together. Time flies. Right? So you fall in love, you get married and you have children. And you buy a house, get a mortgage, get a job, sometimes two jobs, and a car and car payment. The kids have places to go. Next thing you know you’re not careful. You become a little careless. A relationship becomes more like a business partnership than a marriage. You start losing your passion. Right? You allow it to. It just becomes a part of business partnership and the love begins to dissipate. You find out why do we even marry. Forget why you even get married. As people say, they fall out of love with each other, because they allow their love to wane. I’m very much in love with my wife. I’m not talking about my marriage. But we make sure that we keep romance in our marriage. It’s easy to do. People can do that all the time. And the same thing that can happen in their marriage relationship can happen in their walk with God. If we’re not careful, our walk with God can become just something that’s ritual, something emotional we’re going through. We lose the passion. We lose the love.
I became a Christian at age 17. I’ve grown up in the church. I wasn’t serious about God at all. God was a doctrine I knew about. I spit out answers to Bible questions. But the church was the most boring place in the world. I like the pastor. The pastor was around and he is a good guy. I couldn’t wait to get out of there to go home and watch sports or start wrestling. That’s what I was into at age 9 and 10. I want to get out of there. I didn’t care about church kids. They seemed like nerds to me. I didn’t care about reading the Bible. That just seemed boring to me. At the age 17, God just got hold of me. This book became alive and exciting. I just would read it all the time. I read it at home. I read it in between the classes. I scheduled time between after work, before school started, to go to park. I just read the Bible, just make appointments with God. You know. Training for the ministry, I just want to teach God’s Word. Going into the ministry without 31 years from me, a full-time ministry. And you go back years before that, in training. So 35, 36 years either in preparation or in full-time ministry. You know what can happen after a while? It’s that I start coming to the bible because I have got sermons to write. I’ve got a funeral to do. I’ve got a wedding to perform. I’ve got a devotional to lead. I’ve got a bible study to lead. I’ve got a sermon series to plan. And then I’ve got to plan the next sermon series. Pastor Jesee calls me, just doing his job. I’m not mad, but he calls me and says, “Tell me more about what you’re gonna talk about in year 2015? Tell me a little more about.” I’m just teasing. He wants to know more about the message that’s coming up in 2 months. And I find myself again studying, because it’s my job. The Holy Spirit says, when was the last time you went to the woods to just read the Word, to spend time with me? When was the last time you built the fire in the family room, just to spend time with my Word and spend time with me? What about the love, Jeff? You’re doing a good job. You’re studying. You’re preaching. I’m pleased with all that. What about spending time with me just to love me? Not because you got to preach a sermon or series. Ya, Lord, I hear what you’re saying. I’ll work on that. I’ll try to fan that flame of passion in my spiritual life. Am I the only one out there who goes through this? Or do some of you sometimes find that can happen when you want to? That’s what this is about. This series is about big fan. Fan the flame to get it burn again. It’s not about filling your head with knowledge. It’s about filling your heart with love for your Savior. To come to learn more and love more. Join me in prayer.
Father, we thank you for this opportunity. We have these next 7 weeks together to study this book. This book is not really what we’re studying. We’re studying you Word. This book is simply a tool to give us understanding and some structure, as we study what you expect from us, what you desire from us. What you desire from Peter and what you desire from us, more than anything else, that we love you. When we love you, we want to please you. All those that matter begin to fall in place. What we ask today, fan the flame of our heart. As individuals, small groups, as churches, as a church, we love you more as a result of this series together. In Jesus’ name, we pray. Amen.
Hebrews Chapter 12, it’s talking about the sufferings of Jesus. The author says, “Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of throne of God.” I want you to hone in on those words for a moment “for the joy set before him.” What does that mean? You know I thought about that. I thought, you know, the joy set before him probably means that he knows it’s gonna be over with soon. When you’re going through something difficult, here you’re running a marathon, you’re about to quit, and the joy set before you, cross that line, and you’re going to be done with your suffering. Whatever that is, the joy set before you, soon it will be over with. And I’ll be in heaven. That’s the joy to know that you can say it’s finished. I had an experience just yesterday. It gave me a new insight into this passage. I don’t think the way I’ve been looking at it is the way I need to look at it. It’s not how I see it anymore. I was getting ready to. I hadn’t eaten all day. So I was gonna go to a restaurant, have something to drink and eat, tweak the sermon with the final touches on it, to have a chance to go to the club, get exercise, go home and shower, and get ready for church, the first Saturday night live service of the year. So as I was getting ready to do that, I got a text. It was my daughter. She said, I had an accident at the club. I tripped on some weights and I crushed my hand between these 2 weights. I sliced up my hand. Please come. So I went and got her. We went to the hospital. And I am there in the emergency room with her. She’s trying to be brave and strong. He says, it’s gonna need stitches. It’s pretty deep. It’s pretty irregular. So we’re gonna put some shots in here. A couple of shots. It’s gonna burn a little bit. It’s gonna hurt. It’ll be a little pinch, and a burn. Then we’ll stitch you up. And so I held her hand. They began to chew. But it wouldn’t take it, for whatever reason. They did like 2 or 3 shots. Can you still feel it? Ya. 4 or 5 shots. Can you still feel it? Does that still hurt? Ya. 6 shots. How about now? Ya, I can still feel that. Then the last shot just right in the wound. And just gonna really make sure it knocks it up. She’s trying to be so brave and strong. She’s holding back tears. And one big tear comes down on her cheek. She’s so brave. I kissed her. At that moment, if the doctor would have said to me, hey, Dad, we got this new technology. When we can transfer that wound to your hand, it’s gonna hurt. But she’ll be whole and you’ll have what she has. Now I’ll have to stitch you up. You’ll have to heal. She’s gonna be OK. But she’ll experience everything she’s experienced. It’s a new technology. What do you want to do, Dad? That’s no brainer. Right? You’re like, give it to me. Give me the wound. I know it’s gonna hurt. I’m gonna feel joy because it’s gonna make her whole. It’s gonna make her better. So give it to me. Put it on me. What I could not do for my child, God did for his children. I think that’s the joy set before Jesus. Jesus says, give me the sin, give me the pain, wound me, kill me, give me the death, put it on me. Because it’s gonna make my child whole. It’s gonna make my child well. Do it. It goes on him. And his joy is knowing it’s not on us. We’re not gonna die because of our sin. We’re gonna be separated because of the sin. He’s gonna take that on himself. So for the joy set before us. See? What you’re holding in your hands the cup and bread, it’s not just creeds and doctrines. It’s love. It’s the Creator’s love for you. Love for your soul. Love you more than his own life. Let’s pray.
Father, we just want to come before you today, communion. We just don’t want it to be a routine, a ritual. We want to have a meeting with significance just like we did the first time. You began to explain how and why you had to pour out your life and blood and suffer. And really this story, this good news, is a matter of heart. It’s a matter of love. That’s how you want us to define our relationship with you. Greatest command, the love of the Lord, God of all our hearts, our sole strength, that we will return the love that you’ve given to us in Jesus. So remembering his sacrifices becomes asking for forgiveness, blessings, restoration of our souls. Thank you for your love and sacrifice. In Jesus’ name, amen.