This week we've got a guest!

We're talking to KL Wells, founder, and CEO of "Voices In Courage" an online community created to support the loved ones of people in the grip of alcoholism and addiction.

Our chat with KL is really uplifting and illustrates how, with the right mindset, even the most desperate situations can be dealt with in a way that creates a sense of strength and purpose. 

It's really inspiring and we hope you enjoy it.

Martin and I have less time than usual to chat nonsense but he does reveal some disturbing information about his use of notebooks which I am yet to fully recover from.

https://voicesincourage.com/

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