Other discussion points included:

• Amy's journey à la Nicole Byer
• Discussion of the differences between the healthcare system in Canada and the U.S.
• Amy's relationship to swimming, bathing suits and bikinis
• Moving your body when it is plus size
• Fattie worst case scenarios
• Did pictures of fat female bodies every make you feel uncomfortable?
• Where Amy received messages about the health of her body and why she didn't want to lose weight to be more aesthetically pleasing to others
• Why it is an act of bravery to be fat and wear a bikini
• Tips for the rest of your life
• Things Amy does to express her love for her body
• A little bit about the author, Nicole Byer

Amy's website

Amy's Instagram

Amy's Facebook

New IG account for the pod

Podcast merchandise

I Wish I Were Me

Facebook group

Links of stuff mentioned

Doula Melissa

Food Psych Podcast

NEDA

Shove/Moxi Skates

Meg Boggs

Nicole Byer

Book recommendations

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

Every Body Yoga by Jessamyn Stanley

Shrill by Lindy West 

The Witches are Coming by Lindy West

Trixie and Katya's Guide to Modern Womanhood by Trixie Mattel and Katya

Major discussion points included:

• Daman's podcasts
• Differences and similarities between Difficult Women and Hunger, both by Roxane Gay
• The word (my) in the subtitle
• Hunger
• Holding in traumas and being a good girl
• The role of family in Roxane's life and her body
• A discussion of weight and boundaries in Indian culture
• How media hurts us and objectifies women
• How to show comfort without being physical
• The regulation of bodies in our society
• The dehumanization of larger bodies
• Roxane Gay as a feminist, as a body acceptance advocate?
• How would you recommend or prepare others to read this book
• Would someone who is starting on their body positivity journey be able to relate to this book?

Links

11 Questions Podcast

Brown Girl Reads Podcast

Brown Girl Reads Instagram

Daman Instagram

I Wish I Were Me 

Better Body Image Book Club FB Group

The Body is Not an Apology Event with Brunch Babes Read Bookclub

Fat Girl Book Club Merchandise

Book Mentions and Recommendations

Hunger by Roxane Gay

Reasons to Stay Alive by Matt Haig

Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

Ikigai by Hector Garcia  Brown Girl Reads Podcast episode

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

The Power by Naomi Alderman

Hunger by Roxane Gay episode with Nicola Haggett

Major discussion points included:

• Jess's journey to becoming a weight neutral personal trainer
• Getting over the idea that we need to earn our right to be fat
• How Jess found this book and what impact its had on her life
• Major differences between this reading and reading this book when she was 17
• Jess's favourite story
• Have we shifted as a culture since the 90s in regards to respect for bodies?
• The most haunting story in the book
• Attaching our value was women to the male gaze
• The comparison trap and how to get out of it
• Feminism and body liberation
• Is it a natural course to buy into beauty ideals before deconstructing them?
• Makeup and social media

Links

Jess's Instagram

Jess's Facebook

Jess's Youtube

Jess's website

The Lightbulb Fitness Club

Regular Fitness Classes

The Your Better Body Image Checklist

The Better Body Image Facebook group

Fat Girl Book Club Instagram

Fat Girl Book Club Merchandise

Book Picks

Minding the Body Edited by Patricia Foster

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

The Body Project by Joan Jacobs Brumberg

The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf

Our conversation covered so much, including:

• Victoria's journey with her body
• How Victoria found this book and why it is important
• What is the polyvagel theory?
• The role of the vagus nerve
• How the three states of fight/flight, immobilization and social connection work throughout the day
• The connection between the polyvagel theory and intuitive eating/body acceptance
• How limiting beliefs created confirmation bias for our experiences 
• The role of emotions in our relationship to food
• Victoria's funeral for her abs
• Why we really just want to fit in

Keep Reading Everyone!

Links

Victoria Evans IG

Victoria Evans website

Weighing In on Happy Podcast

I Wish I Were Me website

Virtual Book Club FB group

Mastin Kipp

Books

The Polyvagel Theory by Stephen W. Porges

Anti-Diet by Christy Harrison

The Goddess Revolution by Mel Wells

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk

Principle #6 - Feel your Fullness

• Difference between finding hunger and fullness
• The one food Shadoe can still not have in her house
• Shadoe’s allergy story

Principle #7 - Coping with Emotions with Kindness

• Connect with your emotions when your punishing yourself and separate that from when you’re celebrating yourself

Principle #8 - Respect your Body

• Changes from Edition 3 to Edition 4
• Watch a toddler!  Take notes
• Not just food or body movement.  It’s about finding safe spaces.
• Body positive versus fat liberation
• How to get people to listen when they are fat phobic

Principle #9 - Body movement

• Shadoe’s journey from childhood to Covid
• Movement as transaction
• Exercising in public

Principle #10 - Gentle Nutrition

Her body scan technique to figure out if she needs food.  So good!

What intuitive eating has done for Shadoe

Where to start with Intuitive Eating

Links

I Wish I Were Me

Shadoe on IG

The Word Fat on IG

Gertrude’s IG

Poodle Science

Books

Intuitive Eating

The Fuck it Diet

Big: Stories about Life in Plus Size Bodies

Here are some highlights of our discussion:

• Shadoe talks about how her intuitive eating journey and her body liberation journey overlapped
• A discussion about Shadoe's super cool Instagram account
• How people can be assholes when it comes to weight
• The healing power of social media

Principle #1 - Reject the Diet Mentality

• The binge, restrict, overeat cycle
• Dieting as performance
• Being social without dieting

Principle #2 - Honor your Hunger

• The physical sensations of hunger

Principle #3 - Make Peace with Food

• Figuring out trigger foods and eating them
• Gatekeepers in healthcare

Principle #4 - Challenge the Food Police

• Food rules and monitoring other people's food
• Health stories in the news and bias

Principle #5 - Discover the Satisfaction Factor

• Our difference of opinions on this principle
• Distracted eating

Links

I Wish I Were Me Website

The Word Fat Instagram Account

Shadoe Ball's Instagram

Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch

Our highlight reel includes:

• The origin story of Brunch Babes Book Club complete with a Shrill pool party, a rather dark eating disorder book and a book giveaway
• Hannah's relationship to her body and how that has been entangled with religion
• Is Ray an asshole or supportive?
• How Hannah related to Kimberly's body acceptance fiasco
• The weird story of Audrey Hepburn's body
• We discuss if it is possible to break your metabolism
• The utter exhaustion of dieting

Links

Beautiful Bodies by Kimberly Rae Miller

I Wish I Were Me Website

The Better Body Image Book Club Facebook Group

The Paperback Bruncher Instagram

The Paperback Bruncher TikTok

Brunch Babes Reads Instagram

Brunch Babes Reads Facebook

Twitter 

Shop our picks on Bookshop (there's a body positive list!)

Brunch Babes Reads Good Reads

Clubhouse: @hannahmakela 

Hannah's Book List

The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

Come as you are by Emily Nagoski

Landwhale by Jes Baker

Undead Girl Gang by Lily Anderson

What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat by Aubrey Gordon was an incredibly vulnerable book and I think Destiny hits the same tone in our discussion.  We talked about

• Destiny's fat liberation activism journey
• How to set boundaries and be vulnerable at the same time
• Why childhood o*esity campaigns are so problematic
• What is thin security and why it is harmful
• The seduction of concern and choice
• A discussion of the movies and shows mentioned in the book and an education for Jenn about stereotypes in horror movies
• Fat fetishism
• The harm of the medical system on fat bodies
• How do we start changing things for larger bodies?

Keep reading everyone!

Links

My Website and your Ticket to the Book Club

Destiny Dimattei on Instagram

Destiny Dimattei on Tik Tok

Destiny Dimattei's Positive Bodies Baltimore group

What We Don't Talk About When We Talk About Fat by Aubrey Gordon

Bookshare

Poodle Science

ASDAH

HAES

NAAFA

Fat Rose

No Body is Disposable for Vaccines

Destiny's Book List

Health at Every Size by Lindo Bacon

Body Respect by Lindo Bacon and Lucy Aphramor

Landwhale by Jes Baker

Anti Diet by Christy Harrison

Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

Highlight reel of our conversation:

• Jenna tells us a bit about her body movement journey
• Diet culture in the fitness industry (heads up this is messed up!)
• How different fitness modalities have different flavours of disorder
• The benefits of moving fitness away from appearance based goals
• The harm of transformation stories
• How to make social media better for you
• The difference between body positivity, body acceptance and body neutrality
• Big warning about trainers and nutrition!
• Intuitive fitness in the intuitive eating framework (this was pretty neat)
• How to start an intuitive movement practice if you are already doing fitness.  
• How to start an intuitive movement practice if you are a newbie to fitness.
• How values play a super important part in your fitness goals

Links

Jenna's Website

Jenna's Instagram

Tough Love Strength Club

My website - Click here for the Better Body Image Book Club

Jenna's Book Recommendations

The Joy of Movement by Kelly McGonigal

Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch

Body Respect by Lindo Bacon and Lucy Aphramor

The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf

Some of the things Shawn and I got into include:

• Shawn's Health at Every Size journey
• Is this a book a body positive book or a diet book?
• Why dieting is stressful and what that means for our bodies
• Why diets don't work
• Set weight range - what is it?  How do we know if we're in it?  Is it something that is accepted in weight science?
• The word Obesity and the Obesity Paradox
• How to read studies
• Weight stigma and how it affects our health
• The Minnesota Starvation Experiment

Shawn's Booklist

Health at Every Size by Lindo Bacon

Intuitive Eating by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resch

Why Diets Make Us Fat by Sandra Aamodt

The Mindfulness Based Eating Solution by Lynn Rossy

The Body is Not an Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

Fearing the Black Body by Sabrina Strings

Links

Secrets from the Eating Lab by Traci Mann

Biggest Loser Study

Obesity Paradox study

Minnesota Starvation Experiment

Shawn's website

Shawn's Online Course

Shawn's NEW podcast: Motivation Made Easy

Shawn's Free Resource

My website and FREE Virtual Book Club sign up