Fate/moon archive

this episode marks the end of our journey through the toxic yuri jam, until the next one happens at least. we finish out our discussions of games we both played before getting down to the hard task of picking just 10(+1) games you dear listener should play. and the other 15 games you should also play. also you should play whatever sounds interesting, we're not your moms. thank you for joining us on this wild adventure, new listeners and old.

next time, we'll be back to fate/extra ccc! we're on to chapter 3, and the toxic yuri train keeps rolling. for yuri teatime we're covering the 2010 movie uncle boonmee who can recall his past lives.

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

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top 10(ish) list
the romance of the moth and the flame
no mice in heaven
ten metre tide
wishbleed
loner dog://snuff puppy carnage society
cumulonimbus: still the clouds of my childhood remain
connect the dots
dead dolls never die
heavenly amnesia
uranium gays
the lonely dog years for love

honorable mentions
妄想発想 paranoia hyponoia
what is it like to taste
bite the hand
milk puzzle
sunflower sanctuary
frew/hort
snowcorpse necromancy
sacrosacred
pressure cooker
flesh and pressure
in your flesh
contamination protocol
id & i
faithless//flagellant
ride home

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
pressure cooker - 1:11
copycat recipie - 7:44
of piers and bays - 22:10
loner_dog://snuff puppy carnage society - 42:43
no mice in heaven - 1:28:17
flesh and pressure - 1:45:01
incen(diary) - 2:01:27
dead dolls never die - 2:10:41
in your flesh - 2:18:13
b.e.c.k.a. - 2:27:45
heavenly amnesia - 2:48:17
cyberbulli - 3:00:20
gravity house duology - 3:08:18
cumulonimbus - still the clouds of my childhood remain - 3:25:17
contamination protocol - 3:31:12
id & i - 3:37:01
faithless//flagellant - 3:52:07
love you as i am - 4:10:58
official crying rules top 11 toxic yuri jam games list - 4:26:26
outro - 4:54:56
ride home - 5:25:30
seams and senses - 5:45:30
silksong - 6:44:59

list of non type-moon works referenced
pressure cooker
copycat recipe
of piers and bays
loner_dog://snuff puppy carnage society
no mice in heaven
flesh and pressure
incen(diary)
dead dolls never die
in your flesh
b.e.c.k.a.
heavenly amnesia
cyberbulli
gravity house duology
cumulonimbus - still the clouds of my childhood remain
contamination protocol
id & i
faithless//flagellant
love you as i am
ride home
seams and senses
hollow knight silksong

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of pedantry, negativity, everything you'd expect from "toxic" yuri, etc.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

welcome back to crying rules actually, a podcast about taking a short break from our extremely important work talking about bb in order to cover the under-examined world of english language visual novels! this episode is the second in our series of deep dives into the 2025 itch.io-hosted toxic yuri visual novel jam. last episode we talked at length about games only one of us had played, this episode we go through roughly half the games we both played before we run out of time. scroll down for a full list of works discussed on this episode, timestamps for when we discuss them, and links to all the available tyj games we cover this episode!

next week, we'll return with even more toxic yuri! our normal schedule is on pause but ccc coverage and our normal yuri teatime segment will return on october 11th.

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
black lily theater company - 4:46
fairy unfortunate - 19:21
trip to the milky way - 26:33
sieve - 27:54
妄想発想 paranoia hyponoia - 30:28
cigarettes for shion - 45:04
wishbleed - 51:04
uranium gays - 1:07:16
what is it like to taste - 1:12:37
bite the hand - 1:26:50
the lonely dog yearns for love - 1:34:25
heavensent - 1:42:57
ten metre tide - 1:56:31
milk puzzle - 2:26:50
swordmaiden's elegy - 2:36:00
girls' symbiosis - 2:38:58
surveillance:servant - 2:44:55
the girl who was hypnotized to huff armpits - 2:55:33
sunflower sanctuary - 3:00:29
frew/hort - 3:10:01
snowcorpse necromancy - 3:16:09
love you as i am - 3:24:49
seller's market - 3:29:04
connect the dots - 3:31:33
sacrosacred - 3:44:20
going on a walk - 3:48:37
outro - 3:55:25
silksong & hollow knight - 4:10:39

list of non type-moon works referenced
the black lily theatre company
fairy unfortunate
trip to the milky way
sieve
妄想発想 Paranoia Hyponoia
cigarettes for shion
wishbleed
uranium gays
what is it like to taste
bite the hand
the lonely dog yearns for love
heavensent
ten metre tide
milk puzzle
swordmaiden's elegy
girls' symbiosis
surveillance:servant
the girl who was hypnotized to huff armpits
sunflower sanctuary
frew/hort
snowcorpse necromancy
love you as i am
seller's market
connect the dots
sacrosacred
going on a walk
hollow knight silksong
la mulana

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of pedantry, negativity, everything you'd expect from "toxic" yuri, etc.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

Welcome to Crying Rules Actually, a podcast about taking a short break from our extremely important work talking about BB in order to cover the under-examined world of English language visual novels! For the next three Saturdays we'll be releasing a deep dive dive into the 2025 itch.io-hosted Toxic Yuri Visual Novel Jam. Scroll down for a full list of works discussed on this episode, timestamps for when we discuss them, and links to all the available TYJ games we cover this episode!

Next week, we'll return with even more toxic yuri! Our normal schedule is on pause but CCC coverage and our normal Yuri Teatime segment will return on October 11th.

For similar evn jam game coverage, see our menhera jam episodes: moon archive 86 & 87

Featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

Support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

Link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

SECTION TIMESTAMPS:
intro - 0:00
toxic yuri boston definition - 0:56
your glass heart in my hands - 40:19
with reckless abandon - 44:55
wish on this flower - 47:55
weird girl science - 51:01
the girl who was hypnotized to huff armpits (& other stories) - 55:28
we can't keep doing this - 1:02:45
frew/hort - 1:05:58
victims & vessels - 1:14:15
victim soul - 1:38:11
upon graves of ashen snow - 1:43:20
watashi no hatsukoi aite ga kiss shiteta & my girlfriend isn't here today - 1:47:47
trip to the milky way - 1:58:26
the vampire's pet - 2:02:24
the lonely dog yearns for love - 2:04:17
the black lily theatre company - 2:09:32
flesh and pressure - 2:13:16
teeth of the wicked - 2:17:46
syzygy - 2:24:03
devotion - 2:30:43
suburb hell vampire - 2:43:17
the perfect human - 2:51:47
strange animals - 2:56:44
offsuit pair - 2:59:54
sieve - 3:06:26
they once had names - 3:10:07
seller's market - 3:14:40
queen and knight - 3:19:58
play our roles - 3:23:33
melt - 3:27:55
maybe next year - 3:36:11
lilith compolex (prototype) - 3:39:07
let's go to heaven - 3:40:50
junk mail demo - 3:47:03
juliet's sol - 3:49:02
in your flesh - 3:51:03
if it's by my hand - 3:54:49
miso shiru - 3:57:09
i want to rip off your **** with my teeth - 4:05:06
haunt holy - 4:11:17
gash rabbit - 4:16:54
forever yours - 4:24:21
fear of darkness - 4:28:54
diving bell - 4:31:34
distant sunlight endless regrets - 4:38:33
different echos - 4:41:18
demonize on date - 4:49:32
dead end system: prelude - 4:57:39
curled in ice - 5:01:02
cicuta - 5:15:29
blood of the future - 5:18:24
beaconing: a lost cause - 5:21:15
bad apples - 5:28:53
astral battler crux: gilded lily - 5:31:52
aletheia - 5:36:30
outro - 5:39:18

LIST OF NON TYPE-MOON WORKS REFERENCED
your glass heart in my hands
with reckless abandon
wish on this flower
weird girl science
the girl who was hypnotized to huff armpits (& other stories)
we can't keep doing this
frew/hort
victims & vessels
victim soul
upon graves of ashen snow
watashi no hatsukoi aite ga kiss shiteta
my girlfriend isn't here today
trip to the milky way
the vampire's pet
the lonely dog yearns for love
the black lily theatre company
flesh and pressure
teeth of the wicked
syzygy
devotion
suburb hell vampire
the perfect human
strange animals [demo]
offsuit pair
sieve
they once had names
diaries of a spaceport janitor
seller's market
queen and knight
play our roles
melt
maybe next year
lilith complex (prototype)
let's go to heaven
junk mail demo
juliet's sol
in your flesh
if it's by my hand
miso shiru
i want to rip off your **** with my teeth
haunt holy
gash rabbet
forever yours
fear of darkness
diving bell
distant sunlight, endless regrets
different echoes
demonize on date
dead end system: prelude
curled in ice
cicuta
blood of the future
beaconing: a lost cause
bad apples
astral battler crux: gilded lily
aletheia

This episode carries content warnings for discussions of pedantry, negativity, everything you'd expect from "toxic" yuri, etc

Email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

Cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

rani is back and this time they didn't forget to write her a character! (un)?fortunately her character is even more "wife" than rin was. most of the chapter is still clearly in the mode of setting up for the main focus of the game, and while rani has some funny moments it's far from the best ccc has to offer. oh, and we (the one's who didn't know already, at least) find out the pink lancer's name. at least late spring was a banger.

next time, we'll be covering ccc chapter 3. or, that's what you'd expect. instead we're covering a bunch of games from the toxic yuri jam. no yuri teatime because that's basically the entire episode. and i'm not going to include a full list because we cover almost 50 games, stay tuned next week and play some toxic yuri games yourself! i'd recommend moth x flame, personally.

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 1:59
late spring - 2:07
chapter 2: girl's side labratory - calculation prison - 50:14
floor 4 - 1:21:00
floor 5 - 2:46:24
floor 6 - 3:15:24
rani/liz boss fight - 3:33:53
outro - 4:33:58

list of non type-moon works referenced
late spring (1949)

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of blood, wifes, heterosexuality, etc; you know the drill.

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cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

after waking up to an unfamiliar ceiling we chat with sakura for a bit before re-meeting the a cast of characters, new and returning, who are all (except gwain) better than they were in extra, then it's off to fight the boss of the game: tohsaka rin. that's right, finally rin gets her own route and... what's this i'm hearing? ah, it's about as thin as unlimited blade works and it turns out that sakura is the big bad of this game. too bad, try again next time rin. this week: fate/extra ccc - rin time and in the mood for love.

next time, we'll be covering chapter 2 of ccc, and late spring (1949) for yuri teatime.

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe). guest featuring marin.

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 0:58
in the mood for love - 13:40
tunnels by thegreatescaper - 1:21:56
my first love's kiss - 1:30:01
toxic yuri jam corner - 1:33:35
fate/extra ccc - 1:45:26
day 1 - 1:51:38
day 2 - 3:29:47
day 3 - 4:38:10
day 4 - 4:56:03
outro - 5:39:42

list of non type-moon works referenced
in the mood for love
tunnels
my first love's kiss (by iruma hitoma)

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of panchira, ai, blood, sexual assault, and hong kong.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

we're back at tsukimihara academy for another normal day at school. this week: fate/extra ccc and throw away your books, rally in the streets.

next time, we'll be covering chapter 1 of fate/extra ccc. for yuri teatime, we're covering in the mood for love (2000).

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 0:53
throw away your books, rally in the streets - 4:54
fate/extra ccc - 57:26
outro - 2:11:41

list of non type-moon works referenced
throw away your books, rally in the streets
pastoral: to die in the country

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of sexual assault, misogyny, drug use, breasting boobily, etc.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

it's time questions, but not before we spend an hour chatting about the itch situation and nsfw content in general. we're moving soon and so we needed to pad out the podcast schedule, thanks for understanding.

next time, we'll be starting fate/extra ccc. we'll be covering the prologue (everything up until the game asks you to save after you meet your servant). for yuri teatime we'll be starting a series of movie-themed yuri teatimes with throw away your books, rally in the streets.

the link to wishbleed benn mentions is here: https://deaddeaddeath.neocities.org/wishbleed and while i’m at it, https://cryingrulesactually.itch.io/mothxflame is where you can download our game.

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 0:58
toxic yuri jam sampler - 18:53
questions - 1:51:19
outro - 3:21:11

list of non type-moon works referenced
blue prince
the romance of the moth and the flame
kitanai kimi ga ichiban kawaii
la mulana
with those we love left alive
cigarettes for shion
uranium gays
black lilly theater company
vanitas (by sweetfish)

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of rape, incest, payment processors, etc.

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cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from imoutoid.

do you know about the riddle of the two birds in the fig tree? you, dear listener, and i, the veteran podcast host, are much like those two birds if you think about it. the only question remaining is which bird are we. are you the bird who eats away at the podcast while i watch on? or are you here to watch me eat the figs, rejoicing as i tear apart the flesh of the fig? please enjoy as we wrap up tns20 and fate/apocrypha.

next time, we'll be covering nothing! we need a break after how busy apocrypha/subahibi were. so please send in questions! we need 'em!

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe). Guest featuring Katherine (@kimikatherine.bsky.social).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the Fate/Moon Archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

SECTION TIMESTAMPS:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 4:22
tsui no sora remake - 14:36
subject: yokoyama yasuko - 17:04
a-side - 19:29
b-side - 38:05
july 11th - 56:04
july 13th - 1:32:54
july 14th - 2:21:25
july 15th - 2:26:48
july 16th - 2:49:28
july 18th - 3:06:25
july 19th - 3:21:50
subject: mamiya takuji - 3:33:07
20th - 7 = ? - 3:51:21
20th - 6 = ? - 4:15:53
20th - 5 = ? - 4:29:59
20th - 4 = ? - 4:41:08
20th - 3 = ? - 5:04:09
20th - 2 = ? - 5:15:32
20th - 1 = ? - 5:22:59
Numinöse I - 5:41:00
Numinöse II - 5:59:56
fate/apocrypha - 6:31:40
outro - 8:02:40

LIST OF NON TYPE-MOON WORKS REFERENCED
tsui no sora remake

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of child abuse, incest, suicide, cults, etc.

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cover art by benn ends, intro music by benn ends, remaining music from works covered.

the cycle begins anew. a different benn, a different fen, a different guest, but the setup is the same: a yuri teatime, a fate property, an endless discussion. echos of what came before but something new mixed in as well. and endless parade of loosing fens, all loved by this benn here (and now?). rondo rondo rondo.

next time, we'll be covering the remainder of both fate/apocrypha and tsui no sora remake. that's chapters 63-73 of the manga and episodes 23-25 of the anime. for tns we're doing the two remaining views, yasuko and takuji, as well as both epilogues (numinöse i and numinöse ii).

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe). guest featuring peregrin.

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

SECTION TIMESTAMPS:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime(?) - 1:21
fate/apocrypha - 5:18
tsui no sora remake - 2:10:39
subject: minakami yukito - 2:24:52
july 20th - 7 days = ? - 2:25:08
july 20th - 6 days = ? - 3:21:09
july 20th - 5 days = ? - 3:41:49
july 20th - 4 days = ? - 3:59:51
july 20th - 3 days = ? - 4:09:28
july 20th - 2 days = ? - 4:19:02
july 20th - 1 days = ? - 4:32:26
july 20th = ? - 4:44:33
subject: wakatsuki kotomi - 4:55:48
july 20th - 8 days = ? - 4:57:22
july 20th - 7 days = ? - 5:14:13
july 20th - 6 days = ? - 5:17:21
july 20th - 5 days = ? - 5:20:35
july 20th - 4 days = ? - 5:34:22
?th - ? = ? - 5:37:19
?th - ? = ? - 5:38:41
july 20th - 2 days = ? - 6:05:10
subject: takashima zakuro - 6:10:19
july 20th - 11 days = ? - 6:10:41
july 20th - 10 days = ? - 6:29:52
july 20th - 9 days = ? - 6:46:03
july 20th - 8 days = ? - 6:54:54
outro - 7:06:50

LIST OF NON TYPE-MOON WORKS REFERENCED
tsui no sora remake

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of sexual assault, cosmic horror, suicide, and fated showdowns.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, Intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.

at times i'm fen.
at times i'm benn.
at times i'm katherine.
at times i'm blut.
at times i'm terin.
at times i'm chris.
and, every time i climb into the podcast chair, i feel as if i'm doing it all for the first time.

next time, we'll be covering chapters 54-62 of the apocrypha manga and episodes 21 and 22 of the anime. for yuri teatime, we're starting tsui no sora remake with the first three views (yukito, kotomi, and zakuro).

featuring co-hosts Benn Ends (@bennends.itch.io) and fen (@fenic.moe). guest featuring katherine (@kimikatherine.bsky.social).

support the show and get access to bonus episodes: https://www.patreon.com/cryingrules

link to the fate/moon archive new and improved schedule: http://moonarchive.art/schedule

section timestamps:
intro - 0:00
yuri teatime - 1:50
subahibi - 11:50
wonderful everyday - 55:02
hill of sunflowers - 1:50:02
end sky 2 - 2:20:57
knocking on heaven's door - 3:16:45
down the rabbit hole (reread) - 4:05:55
~interlude~ - 4:54:22
fate/apocrypha - 5:04:59
outro - 6:24:07

list of non type-moon works referenced
subarashiki hibi ~furenzoku sonzai~

this episode carries content warnings for discussions of normalcy, heterosexuality, and headmate death.

email us at [email protected] with questions, comments, and compliments.

cover art by Benn Ends, intro music by Benn Ends, remaining music from works covered.