Fresh Episode Drop!

This episode I have someone I've wanted to chat up for some time on my podcast, a wicked smart GenX badass, my cousin Cathy! (Yeah, I may be biased.) 

We are talking about women in IT, in IT security, hacking, mental health as a woman in a male-dominate field for many years, being diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, and managing anxiety and depression, and therapy. 

We had SO much to chat about, that a part two will be dropping in two weeks!

PLEASE NOTE: there is discussion of suicidal ideation, anxiety, depression and post-partum issues during this episode.

More info about my guest: Cathy Del Carlo is a Senior Information Security Engineer for her day gig, and "a creator of chaos, mother of dragons, slayer of vulnerabilities, and destroyer of systems" in her downtime.

And as promised, The IT Crowd (on YouTube)

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Trans Lifeline: 877-565-8860 - Trans Lifeline is a grassroots hotline and microgrants 501(c)(3) non-profit organization offering direct emotional and financial support to trans people in crisis – for the trans community, by the trans community.

TrevorLifeline: 866-488-7386 - The Trevor Project’s mission is to end suicide among LGBTQ+ young people.

RAINN: 800-656-4673 - National Sexual Assault Hotline, RAINN’s mission is to stop sexual violence by supporting survivors, holding perpetrators accountable, and creating safer communities.

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You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

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Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
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Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

This is a big episode (over an hour!), but so worth the time as my co-host, No. 1 Child is with me chatting up my colleague and friend, Steve Bisson. Topics covered:

First Responders + Peer Support = Mental Health Support

Respect. Respect! Respect?

Counterculture 2020s style

Generational Expectations

AI + Critical Thinking

Get Off My Lawn!

Activation Alert Notice: This episode discusses sensitive topics, including trauma, suicide and death. Listener discretion is advised.

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More information about Steve:
Steve Bisson is a licensed mental health counselor with over 25 years of experience. He specializes in substance use therapy, crisis management, and online counseling. Steve worked for a non-profit based for 15 years, where he held various positions, including program director, crisis clinician, and member of the original meetings for the Jail Diversion Program. He has been in private practice where he is known for his work with first responders and medical staff, who make up a significant portion of his clientele. He is also the host of the mental health podcast, "Resilience in Development in Action" (formerly titled: "Finding Your Way Through Therapy") and has authored a book and journal on mental wellness. Steve's education includes Bachelor of Arts and Master's degrees in Counseling Psychology, and his notable certifications include EMDR and coaching.

Instagram and TikTok:
@realstevebisson

Podcast:
Resilience in Development in Action - https://steve-bisson.com/my-podcast/

on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@RDAPOD

Book:
Finding Your Way Through Therapy: A Navigation Tool for Therapists & Clients

Website:
https://steve-bisson.com/

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

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Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
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Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

No. 1 Child and I discuss how we're trying to maintain some distance from all the news inundating us this year. This means movies, music and books.

And I have a bit of a passionate outburst about how Mary, Queen of Scots is portrayed in films and shows. A little bit.

Shows:

California Law

Secrets of Spanish Florida

Kanopy - streaming service available through public libraries

Books:

The Buffalo Hunter Hunter, Author: Stephen Graham Jones

The Djinn Waits One Hundred Years: A Novel, Author: Shubnum Khan

How I Accidentally Became a Global Stock Photo, Author: Shubnum Khan

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

After several months of less than enjoyable shenanigans, No. 1 Child is back in the co-host seat! We're chatting about passion projects and interests in folx lives, including some of our own. (Of course, she's sassy as usual.)

Info on some of what we discussed:

Antelope Canyon, AZ

*No longer on lottery system, but reserved tours only.

Grand Canyon, AZ

*I was on the south rim during my visit.

Joy - Limitless Louie Instagram @limitless_louie

Journaling! Some of my favorite accounts:

Paper Craze Instagram @paper_craze

Ria Journals Instagram @ria_journals

Jose Naranja 

Cognitive Surplus 

Dapper Notes

Reading joy: Authors' Group Chat Nobody Asked For (a series) Instagram @literaladventures

*I didn't get a chance to mention this IG account. Hilarious take on authors if they had group chats. Highly recommend for readers!

Squishies!

Existential Potatoes - Stitching Sunlight  Instagram @stitchingsunlight

*No sponsorships or support from any of the businesses/accounts, just really like them!

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

New Year, same old me. And I'm totally down with that status.

No. 1 Child and I are snacking on holiday cheese leftovers, she's got an adult beverage while i have my tea, going all over the place in our rambling.

Join us or just put us on in the background to keep yourselves company.

PLEASE NOTE: There are multiple topics we discuss that listeners may find upsetting and/or activating to them, including trauma.

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When Seneca isn't being sassy Number One Child co-host, she's busy with a job that her mother still doesn't quite understand about finance management. Outside of work, Seneca is a licensed cosmetologist and makeup artist. Seneca’s hobbies include studying latest fashion trends, archery, going hiking and fishing as well as baking and cooking. 
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Support the show

Want more sweary goodness? There's now the availability of Premium Subscription for $3 a month! Click the "Support The Show" link and find out more info.

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

"I like your dress!"

"Thanks, it has pockets!"

Continuing our discussion of fashion, body autonomy, the politics of clothing, with Jenn. We're going down even more rabbit holes! As Jenn says, "for those playing the home game version," here are the folx we reference in this episode, click their name to be connected to their YouTube channels.

Bernadette Banner

Abby Cox

J. Draper

Dr. Serena Dyer

Lindsay Holliday

Nicole Rudolph

Karolina Zebrowska

Book reference: Beau Brummell

Many things knitted and sewing: Franklin Habit 

What started this all:

The Sweary Therapist's Favorite Episode #3: Women and Their Tattoos - Must Love Pants, Dogs, Horses, Beer & Cheese

More info about Jenn:
Jenn is a graduate of Iowa State University with a degree in something that somehow led her here because life is full of mystery. In her free time she enjoys horseback riding, reading, cooking, and craft and sewing projects.

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Want more sweary goodness? There's now the availability of Premium Subscription for $3 a month! Click the "Support The Show" link and find out more info.

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

"I like your dress!"

"Thanks, it has pockets!"

Settle in for this discussion, I've got one of my kids with me again, Jenn. We're going down rabbit holes. As Jenn says, "for those playing the home game version," here are the folx we reference in this episode, click their name to be connected to their YouTube channels.

Bernadette Banner

Abby Cox

J. Draper

Dr. Serena Dyer

Lindsay Holliday

Nicole Rudolph

Karolina Zebrowska

What started this all:

The Sweary Therapist's Favorite Episode #3: Women and Their Tattoos - Must Love Pants, Dogs, Horses, Beer & Cheese

More info about Jenn:
Jenn is a graduate of Iowa State University with a degree in something that somehow led her here because life is full of mystery. In her free time she enjoys horseback riding, reading, cooking, and craft and sewing projects.

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Support the show

Want more sweary goodness? There's now the availability of Premium Subscription for $3 a month! Click the "Support The Show" link and find out more info.

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

Are you ready to ramble?! No. 1 Child and I absolutely ramble on with this episode.

There's no gentle lead in or intro, we hit the ground running with our shenanigans:

• old media internet reference
• holiday season
• holiday decoration scheme
• new pet in No. 1 Child's home
• weather or lack of it
• Pike's Peak and No. 1 Child's desire to drag me up it and hug bears
• tacos
• finding peace in being single on purpose

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When Seneca isn't being sassy Number One Child co-host, she's busy with a job that her mother still doesn't quite understand about finance management. Outside of work, Seneca is a licensed cosmetologist and makeup artist. Seneca’s hobbies include studying latest fashion trends, archery, going hiking and fishing as well as baking and cooking. 

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Support the show

Want more sweary goodness? There's now the availability of Premium Subscription for $3 a month! Click the "Support The Show" link and find out more info.

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

S5E2 Guest: Steve Bisson, LMHC (MA)

One of my favorite people is back and we're chatting about so many things related to his podcast evolving from Finding Your Way Through Therapy to Resilience Development In Action.

We also chat about many other topics:

• Passion kicking motivation in the ass
• Getting education about therapy out in the world
• What are other areas of crisis response people don't think about
• What's the definition of a First Responder
• How are we as therapists and therapists in therapy ourselves
• And I win Word of the Day!

PLEASE NOTE: There are multiple topics we discuss that listeners may find upsetting and/or activating to them, including trauma including brief discussion of suicide and death.

For more information about Steve and his work:

Straight To The Point Therapy

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.

Are you ready to ramble?! 

Straight out of the gate, you got a reference to Star Trek red shirts…and it spirals out from there.

This episode is following up to the first episode (prior to kicking off Season 5) with my cohost, No. 1 Child, and breaking my own rules for editing.

It didn’t yield what we thought it would, so…we cover a lot of things: television, movies*, music, actors, artists, AI, ChatGPT.

So it’s a rambling episode, put it on the background and feel free to laugh at us or with us!

*The movie that the music video by Annie Lennox “Walking On Broken Glass” was inspired by the movie, “Dangerous Liaisons” with Glen Close and John Malkovich. Not Amadeus as discussed in this episode.

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F*ck The Rules Podcast is produced by Evil Bambina Productions, LLC. 
You can find our podcast on Amazon Music/Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more!

More info can be found on the website, Fuck The Rules Podcast.

***
Social media/podcast episodes are not intended to replace therapy with a qualified mental health professional. All posts/episodes are for educational purposes only. 
*****
Susan Roggendorf is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Illinois and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Iowa. In addition to hosting and producing her podcast, she's a volunteer mentor and a supervisor to new therapists, as well as running a private practice as an independent provider full-time. A National Certified Counselor through the NBCC as well as an Emergency Responder & Public Safety Certified Clinician through NERPSC and Certified Clinical Trauma Professional. Main populations Susan works with: folx living with anxiety and trauma experiences in the LGBTQIA community as well as First Responders, Law Enforcement, hospital staff, urgent care and Emergency Department folx. When she's not busy with all that, as a GenX elder, she's usually busy annoying her adult children with 70's and 80's references.