Fearless Self-Love

Listen for:

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• Why routine matters

• Don't over think it

• How to ground your body & mind

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Check out Natha's podcast!​

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Star Narratives

http://nathaperkins.com/star-narratives-the-podcast/

Listen for:

​

• Why routine matters

• Don't over think it

• How to ground your body & mind

​

Check out Natha's podcast!​

​

Star Narratives

http://nathaperkins.com/star-narratives-the-podcast/

This cozy recording in which I hosted Spencre L.R. McGowan of @gingertoothandtwine in my tiny recording closet, she and I explore the impact of being publicly creative. What happens after the book is published, the art exhibit closes, the podcast launches? Then what? Do you pause, get sad, allow space for something new? Spencre boldly shares her story, the one of conception, birth, and a seeming postpartum depression before new ideas and clarity again blossomed. Join us as we explore this real thing we creatives feel, but don't often reveal. We'll leave you with a bath of tea and an herbal steam.

• Why to create even when you think no one's watching (of very few)

• What the afterbirth blues of a creative project can reveal

• How to nourish yourself with herbs in your bath and beverage

Links Mentioned:

Ravenwood Outdoor Learning Center http://ravenwoodolc.org/

Kim Krans Wild Unknown https://www.thewildunknown.com/

Blotto Botany http://www.gingertoothandtwine.com/the-book/

Gingertooth & Twine http://www.gingertoothandtwine.com/

California School of Herbal Studies http://cshs.com/

Rosemary Gladstar https://www.sagemountain.com/welcome-to-sage-mountain-2016/about-rosemary-gladstar/

Haus Witch https://hauswitchstore.com/

Harper Collins https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062740618/blotto-botany/

J.K. Rowling https://www.jkrowling.com/

Show Highlights:

01:50 Easeful Living Practice -- Creative Cooking

5:17 Interview with Spencre L.R. McGowan begins -- our cooking and teaching connections, and an intro to Spencre's book, Blotto Botany

09:21 Spencre's journey from Nantucket to Montana by way of Herbalism school & her love of cordials

19:48 The book's release date and the postpartum depression of sorts that followed

26:20 What Spencre learned about herself in the process of producing her book, Blotto Botany

32:00 Spencre's Pie Delivery service

33:33 Courageous Self-Care Tip

Favorite Quotes:

"What we don't talk about as creators is the process and the emotional toll that it can take on a person." -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

"When you release a book, it's like...a milestone birthday." -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

"[In the process of writing a book] I've learned mostly what I don't want." -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

"I am fucking Harriet the Spy." -- Andrea Catherine

Meet Spencre:

Spencre L.R. McGowan is an herbalist and writer from many places, primarily Maine and Nantucket. She is the creator of Gingertooth & Twine, a blog and shop dedicated to enhancing herbal wisdom through plant based brews, meals and publications. Spencre received her certification as an herbalist from the California School of Herbal Studies in 2013 and is the author of Blotto Botany: a Lesson in Healing Cordials & Plant Magic. She currently lives alongside the icy caps of Montana with some plants.

This cozy recording in which I hosted Spencre L.R. McGowan of @gingertoothandtwine in my tiny recording closet, she and I explore the impact of being publicly creative. What happens after the book is published, the art exhibit closes, the podcast launches? Then what? Do you pause, get sad, allow space for something new? Spencre boldly shares her story, the one of conception, birth, and a seeming postpartum depression before new ideas and clarity again blossomed. Join us as we explore this real thing we creatives feel, but don’t often reveal. We’ll leave you with a bath of tea and an herbal steam.

• Why to create even when you think no one’s watching (of very few)

• What the afterbirth blues of a creative project can reveal

• How to nourish yourself with herbs in your bath and beverage

Links Mentioned:

Ravenwood Outdoor Learning Center http://ravenwoodolc.org/

Kim Krans Wild Unknown https://www.thewildunknown.com/

Blotto Botany http://www.gingertoothandtwine.com/the-book/

Gingertooth & Twine http://www.gingertoothandtwine.com/

California School of Herbal Studies http://cshs.com/

Rosemary Gladstar https://www.sagemountain.com/welcome-to-sage-mountain-2016/about-rosemary-gladstar/

Haus Witch https://hauswitchstore.com/

Harper Collins https://www.harpercollins.com/9780062740618/blotto-botany/

J.K. Rowling https://www.jkrowling.com/

Show Highlights:

01:50 Easeful Living Practice -- Creative Cooking

5:17 Interview with Spencre L.R. McGowan begins -- our cooking and teaching connections, and an intro to Spencre’s book, Blotto Botany

09:21 Spencre’s journey from Nantucket to Montana by way of Herbalism school & her love of cordials

19:48 The book’s release date and the postpartum depression of sorts that followed

26:20 What Spencre learned about herself in the process of producing her book, Blotto Botany

32:00 Spencre’s Pie Delivery service

33:33 Courageous Self-Care Tip

Favorite Quotes:

“What we don’t talk about as creators is the process and the emotional toll that it can take on a person.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

“When you release a book, it’s like...a milestone birthday.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

“[In the process of writing a book] I’ve learned mostly what I don’t want.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan

“I am fucking Harriet the Spy.” -- Andrea Catherine

Meet Spencre:

Spencre L.R. McGowan is an herbalist and writer from many places, primarily Maine and Nantucket. She is the creator of Gingertooth & Twine, a blog and shop dedicated to enhancing herbal wisdom through plant based brews, meals and publications. Spencre received her certification as an herbalist from the California School of Herbal Studies in 2013 and is the author of Blotto Botany: a Lesson in Healing Cordials & Plant Magic. She currently lives alongside the icy caps of Montana with some plants.

Kick off your new year by trading in fear for creativity and comparison for curiosity. In episode 5 of season 3 of the Fearless Self-Love Podcast, I interview artist, teacher, and creative coach, Jenny Bevill. Jenny's career and personal life have taught her time and again how healing and essential creativity is, not just for artists, but for everyone. "Everybody wants to be creative," she says. The problem is, we often feel we're not good enough or don't have certain skills. Listen in for tricks to peak your own curiosity and ultimately bolster your own creativity.

• How fear prevents us from being creative

• Why curiosity is the basis of creativity

• How to use your own personal connection to cultivate creativity

Links Mentioned:

Reggio Emilia https://www.reggioalliance.org/

Kylin O'Brien https://www.kylinobrien.net/

Kylin O'Brien Interview Season 1 Episode 19 https://www.groundedhere.com/season-1

Jamie Wyman https://www.jamiewymanmusic.com/

Jamie Wyman Interview Season 1 Episode 22 https://www.groundedhere.com/season-1

Kiki Smith's Wolf Girl https://www.artnet.com/auctions/artists/kiki-smith/wolf-girl

Jenny's Website: https://jennybevillcreative.com/

Show Highlights:

01:29 Easeful Living Practice ~ Reggio Emilia's Emotional Continuum

13:25 Interview with Jenny Bevill begins! Our mutual gut feeling we would be collaborating in some way

19:20 Do we need a specific skill set to reflect our creativity? What about your fear? Is it getting in the way?

28:55 Jenny's creative process ~ what lights her up

37:16 How Jenny helps people find their creativity

Favorite Quotes:

"When I'm feeling overwhelmed, I need to do something about it." -- Jenny Bevill

"We can't try to feel amazing all the time. That's just not human, and it's going to take so much energy, and it's just not possible." -- Jenny Bevill

"Everybody wants to be creative." -- Jenny Bevill

"Art is way bigger than 'can you copy something realistically?'" -- Jenny Bevill

"To live a creative life we must lose our fear of being wrong." -- Joseph Chilton Pearce

"If you're fearful you really can't learn, and you can't be creative." -- Jenny Bevill

"If you never fail, you never learn to be resilient." -- Jenny Bevill

What stops people is they think [creativity] is one thing, and that one thing doesn't work for them, so then they think they're not creative." -- Jenny Bevill

Meet Jenny:

Jenny Bevill is passionate about creating shared experiences for children and adults around works of contemporary art. Her workshops help people unlock their own creativity by silencing their fearful inner critic and practicing creative behaviors and cultivating curiosity.

Jenny began collaborating with NYC public school teachers to integrate visual arts into the classroom in 1992. Before joining the Guggenheim Museum's Learning Through Art program in 2004, she worked with the Brooklyn Museum, Grand Street Settlement, and other cultural organizations, both as an artist and as an educator. She earned her BFA from Parsons School of Design and her MA in Art and Art Education from Teachers College, Columbia University.

She and her teaching partner Ilana Ingber, are in their second year of a mentorship program with Success Academy, the largest charter school network in New York City. Happy HeART Teachers supports teacher wellness and prevents burnout.

Jenny serves the Missoula Art Museum as Educator Coordinator. In this role she collaborates to design interpretive strategy and educational programming around exhibitions.

Kick off your new year by trading in fear for creativity and comparison for curiosity. In episode 5 of season 3 of the Fearless Self-Love Podcast, I interview artist, teacher, and creative coach, Jenny Bevill. Jenny’s career and personal life have taught her time and again how healing and essential creativity is, not just for artists, but for everyone. “Everybody wants to be creative,” she says. The problem is, we often feel we’re not good enough or don’t have certain skills. Listen in for tricks to peak your own curiosity and ultimately bolster your own creativity.

• How fear prevents us from being creative

• Why curiosity is the basis of creativity

• How to use your own personal connection to cultivate creativity

Links Mentioned:

Reggio Emilia  https://www.reggioalliance.org/

Kylin O’Brien https://www.kylinobrien.net/

Kylin O’Brien Interview Season 1 Episode 19 https://www.groundedhere.com/season-1

Jamie Wyman https://www.jamiewymanmusic.com/

Jamie Wyman Interview Season 1 Episode 22  https://www.groundedhere.com/season-1

Kiki Smith’s Wolf Girl https://www.artnet.com/auctions/artists/kiki-smith/wolf-girl

Jenny’s Website: https://jennybevillcreative.com/

Show Highlights:

01:29 Easeful Living Practice ~ Reggio Emilia’s Emotional Continuum

13:25 Interview with Jenny Bevill begins! Our mutual gut feeling we would be collaborating in some way

19:20 Do we need a specific skill set to reflect our creativity? What about your fear? Is it getting in the way?

28:55 Jenny’s creative process ~ what lights her up

37:16 How Jenny helps people find their creativity

Favorite Quotes:

“When I’m feeling overwhelmed, I need to do something about it.” -- Jenny Bevill

“We can’t try to feel amazing all the time. That’s just not human, and it’s going to take so much energy, and it’s just not possible.” -- Jenny Bevill

“Everybody wants to be creative.” -- Jenny Bevill

“Art is way bigger than ‘can you copy something realistically?’” -- Jenny Bevill

“To live a creative life we must lose our fear of being wrong.” -- Joseph Chilton Pearce

“If you’re fearful you really can’t learn, and you can’t be creative.” -- Jenny Bevill

“If you never fail, you never learn to be resilient.” -- Jenny Bevill

What stops people is they think [creativity] is one thing, and that one thing doesn’t work for them, so then they think they’re not creative.” -- Jenny Bevill

Meet Jenny:

Jenny Bevill is passionate about creating shared experiences for children and adults around works of contemporary art. Her workshops help people unlock their own creativity by silencing their fearful inner critic and practicing creative behaviors and cultivating curiosity.

Jenny began collaborating with NYC public school teachers to integrate visual arts into the classroom in 1992. Before joining the Guggenheim Museum’s Learning Through Art program in 2004, she worked with the Brooklyn Museum, Grand Street Settlement, and other cultural organizations, both as an artist and as an educator. She earned her BFA from Parsons School of Design and her MA in Art and Art Education from Teachers College, Columbia University.

She and her teaching partner Ilana Ingber, are in their second year of a mentorship program with Success Academy, the largest charter school network in New York City. Happy HeART Teachers supports teacher wellness and prevents burnout.

Jenny serves the Missoula Art Museum as Educator Coordinator. In this role she collaborates to design interpretive strategy and educational programming around exhibitions.

Favorite Quotes:

​

"Do some thinking:

• Am I putting my efforts in the right places?

• Am I generating the kind of money and security I need to relax my nervous system?

• Are there rules I am following that I no longer need to follow?"

​

"Capricorn and Saturn say 'no, you don't snap your fingers and get anything of true value, you really have to work for it.'"

-- Natha Perkins Campanella

Favorite Quotes:

​

"Do some thinking:

• Am I putting my efforts in the right places?

• Am I generating the kind of money and security I need to relax my nervous system?

• Are there rules I am following that I no longer need to follow?" 

​

"Capricorn and Saturn say 'no, you don't snap your fingers and get anything of true value, you really have to work for it.'"

          -- Natha Perkins Campanella

Lia Raz has reinvigorated my spirit! She brings to light the concept of eco-anxiety, its commonality and Her reminders about caring for ourselves through caring for the earth, serve as an affirmation and measure of accountability for some of my goals in 2019! As an Ayurvedic Health Counselor and current Horticulture student, Lia reminds us all of the connection between the nature within us and the nature all around us. We are the microcosm within the macrocosm. What we do impacts us all. After this interview, securing a composting system is at the top of my list for 2019!

• How gratitude can be the first step toward positive change
• Why composting matter and how to do it in your home
• How and why to be a contributor rather than a consumer

Links Mentioned:

The Science of Gratitude: https://www.wnyc.org/story/science-gratitude/

United Nations on Climate Change: http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/

Worm Bin Resources:

• From the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/recycle/how-create-and-maintain-indoor-worm-composting-bin
• Gardening Channel: https://www.gardeningchannel.com/worm-composting-indoors/

Dirt Rich Compost: https://www.dirtrichcompost.com/

Bio Bag: http://biobagusa.com/

Benefits of composting: https://www.epa.gov/recycle/composting-home

Lia's website: http://www.liaraz.com/

Lia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesharedheart/

Show Highlights:

02:28 Easeful Living Practice ~ Travel Tips for the Holiday Season

07:38 Interview with Lia Raz begins with an exploration of eco-anxiety and self-compassion

13:22 How our relationships with ourselves reflect our relationship with the planet

18:41 Gratitude as the first step to making change…from passive hope to action

21:40 The staggering impact of rising temperatures on the fate of humanity

29:01 Worm composting! How and why to start composting immediately.

37:32 Make things for yourself…contribute rather than consume.

43:15 What's next for Lia in 2019

Favorite Quotes:

"Hope is great, hope is important, but it also needs to be active." — Lia Raz

"Everything comes back to compassion. The greatest teacher we can have in compassion…is our relationship with ourselves."

"To have that compassion for ourselves, to be kind to ourselves and forgive ourselves, that's everything. That's step one before we can really go out in the world and show compassion and care for others, for the planet. And not come at it from this kind of conflict."— Lia Raz

"I get kind of angry when I'm sick, and it's not my body being upset with me, it's loving me and showing me where I need to work." — Lia Raz

"What do we have to work with when we just feed ourselves processed food?" —Andrea Catherine

"When we create that gratitude for what goes into our bodies and what heals us, we also create a connection to the planet." — Lia Raz

"All uncomfortable moments are gifts. They're opportunities to practice and to learn. It's just very hard to remember that when you're in it." — Lia Raz

"Food scraps in landfill are just as bad as anything else. They're not breaking down the way they would in a compost." —Lia Raz

"Be conscious of what you consume, and if you need it. Such a huge part of how we got to where we are is consuming things we don't need." —Lia Raz

"We are whole, we are beautiful we are perfect, and we don't need things to make us any better. We're perfect as we are." — Lia Raz

Meet Lia:

I'm a Brooklyn native with a background in Ayurveda, birth and postpartum support, permaculture, composting and horticulture. My dream is to live in community, in self-sufficiency and in harmony with Mother Nature. I'm on the cosmic hero's journey to wholeness, just like everyone else, whether they know it or not.

Lia Raz has reinvigorated my spirit! She brings to light the concept of eco-anxiety, its commonality and Her reminders about caring for ourselves through caring for the earth, serve as an affirmation and measure of accountability for some of my goals in 2019! As an Ayurvedic Health Counselor and current Horticulture student, Lia reminds us all of the connection between the nature within us and the nature all around us. We are the microcosm within the macrocosm. What we do impacts us all. After this interview, securing a composting system is at the top of my list for 2019!

• How gratitude can be the first step toward positive change
• Why composting matter and how to do it in your home
• How and why to be a contributor rather than a consumer

Links Mentioned:

The Science of Gratitude: https://www.wnyc.org/story/science-gratitude/

United Nations on Climate Change: http://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/

Worm Bin Resources:

• From the EPA: https://www.epa.gov/recycle/how-create-and-maintain-indoor-worm-composting-bin
• Gardening Channel: https://www.gardeningchannel.com/worm-composting-indoors/

Dirt Rich Compost: https://www.dirtrichcompost.com/

Bio Bag: http://biobagusa.com/

Benefits of composting: https://www.epa.gov/recycle/composting-home

Lia’s website: http://www.liaraz.com/

Lia on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesharedheart/

Show Highlights:

02:28 Easeful Living Practice ~ Travel Tips for the Holiday Season

07:38 Interview with Lia Raz begins with an exploration of eco-anxiety and self-compassion

13:22 How our relationships with ourselves reflect our relationship with the planet

18:41 Gratitude as the first step to making change…from passive hope to action

21:40 The staggering impact of rising temperatures on the fate of humanity

29:01 Worm composting! How and why to start composting immediately.

37:32 Make things for yourself…contribute rather than consume.

43:15 What’s next for Lia in 2019

Favorite Quotes:

“Hope is great, hope is important, but it also needs to be active.” — Lia Raz

“Everything comes back to compassion. The greatest teacher we can have in compassion…is our relationship with ourselves.”

“To have that compassion for ourselves, to be kind to ourselves and forgive ourselves, that’s everything. That’s step one before we can really go out in the world and show compassion and care for others, for the planet. And not come at it from this kind of conflict.”— Lia Raz

“I get kind of angry when I’m sick, and it’s not my body being upset with me, it’s loving me and showing me where I need to work.” — Lia Raz

“What do we have to work with when we just feed ourselves processed food?” —Andrea Catherine

“When we create that gratitude for what goes into our bodies and what heals us, we also create a connection to the planet.” — Lia Raz

“All uncomfortable moments are gifts. They’re opportunities to practice and to learn. It’s just very hard to remember that when you’re in it.” — Lia Raz

“Food scraps in landfill are just as bad as anything else. They’re not breaking down the way they would in a compost.” —Lia Raz

“Be conscious of what you consume, and if you need it. Such a huge part of how we got to where we are is consuming things we don’t need.” —Lia Raz

“We are whole, we are beautiful we are perfect, and we don’t need things to make us any better. We’re perfect as we are.” — Lia Raz

Meet Lia:

I'm a Brooklyn native with a background in Ayurveda, birth and postpartum support, permaculture, composting and horticulture. My dream is to live in community, in self-sufficiency and in harmony with Mother Nature. I'm on the cosmic hero's journey to wholeness, just like everyone else, whether they know it or not.