@Thooorin  & I are joined by  @fl0m  to discuss the recent changes in Team Liquid's CS2 roster. We go through all the variables which make it difficult to pinpoint the cause of any potential failure. The addition of an unknown player, ultimate, raises questions about the org's decision-making process. We weigh in on Twistzz desire to IGL and what impact this could have on his career. There's a lot of other points: Cadian, mithR as coach, YEKINDAR's form drop.... SO. MUCH. STUFF.

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0:00 Introduction and welcoming fl0m

01:27 Team Liquid's changes & variables

03:31 Why ultimate?

08:17 Are Team Liquid being unfair to ultimate?

15:53 Stop gap lineup

23:42 Clash of leadership styles: Cadian & Twistzz

38:28 Role of leadership and communications in CS2

41:18 MindBodyEsports has his work cut out for him

41:56 The return of jks

48:44 with YEKINDAR find his form

53:00 Uncertainty surrounds YEKINDAR and ultimate

53:25 new coach mithR

56:48 The impact of ego and confidence

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