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John Carpenter's "In the Mouth of Madness" is not based on a single H.P. Lovecraft story, and it may still be the best Lovecraft film ever made. Richard Lewis, MonteCristo and Thorin argue that a 1994 horror movie nobody funded for years understood cosmic horror better than every official adaptation that came after it.
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Primer cost $7,000. Shane Carruth wrote it, directed it, produced it, starred in it, edited it and scored it, won the Sundance Grand Jury Prize, and then more or less disappeared. Twenty years later it is still the most realistic time travel movie ever made, and nobody understands it on the first watch.
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Edge of Tomorrow cost $178 million, made $381 million, and stars two of the most famous actors alive. It arrived in 2014 alongside Guardians of the Galaxy, Interstellar and Gone Girl, and vanished. Everybody who has seen it loves it. Almost nobody has seen it.
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12 Monkeys made $170 million in 1995. It stars Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt got an Oscar nomination for it. Almost nobody talks about it anymore, and there is no good reason why.
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A beloved family film opens with a main character machine-gunned by Libyan terrorists in a mall car park, and spends its second act on a teenager talking his own mother out of being attracted to him. Back to the Future is much stranger than its reputation, and it is still close to a perfect movie.
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Thorin has been teasing The Prestige on Four Play for over a hundred episodes. It is his favorite film of all time. MonteCristo and Richard Lewis think it is Nolan's best. Twenty years after it came out and quietly underperformed, the critics ranking his catalog after The Odyssey are arriving at the same place.
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Richard Lewis turned Tenet off three times. On the fourth attempt he finally made it to the end, and he came out calling it an unfairly maligned film.
That is the story of this episode. Thorin picked Tenet expecting a bloodbath, hoping to be the lone defender of Christopher Nolan's most divisive movie. Instead Richard converted, MonteCristo landed somewhere in the middle, and the argument turned into something more interesting: is a film allowed to be incomplete after one viewing? Thorin's position is that Tenet is the only movie ever made that genuinely requires a second watch, because the first time through you are only seeing one side of a temporal pincer movement.
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Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey spent a year being called woke by people who never opened the poem. Then it opened to $264 million worldwide and a 95% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Richard Lewis, MonteCristo, and Thorin recorded this one last, after filming an entire Nolan arc worrying on camera about what he would do to Homer. All three landed between a seven and an eight, and all three reached the same verdict: the loudest critics exposed themselves. Calling the non-linear structure a betrayal means you never opened a poem that starts in the middle. Emily Wilson has publicly disowned Nolan's version. And Elliot Page is playing Sinon, not Achilles.
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Inception is a nearly perfect film. It reinvented the summer blockbuster, proved a two-and-a-half-hour original movie about dream architecture could nearly make a billion dollars, and it's the reason Christopher Nolan gets to do whatever he wants in Hollywood. Richard Lewis, Thorin, and MonteCristo kick off the Christopher Nolan arc with his best original film, the Hans Zimmer score that might be the best since Gladiator, and the one flaw that reveals a fundamental limitation in everything Nolan makes.
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Thorin thinks Paranoia Agent sucks. MonteCristo and Richard think it's an 8 out of 10 and one of the most prescient pieces of media ever made about the internet. This is not a polite disagreement. Richard Lewis, Thorin, and MonteCristo spend 90 minutes arguing over whether Satoshi Kon's only TV series is a masterpiece of social commentary or everything wrong with anime condensed into 13 episodes.
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