Feeding Fatty by Roy Barker

February 08, 2022 Feeling Stuck in Life? Freedom is Within Your Grasp

Feeling Stuck in Life? Freedom is Within Your Grasp Featuring Karen Theimer

It’s easy to feel stuck in life. Especially once you reach a certain age. You have been raising kids and/or working. It’s very easy to lose yourself over the year. You lose sight of what you really want to be. What you really want to do. Sometimes its easy to give up that you can ever do anything except what you are doing right now. I can tell you for sure, there is hope depending upon how much you want to change. What are you willing to risk. Its not to be taken lightly for sure. Once we reach a certain age our time horizon becomes much shorter. Not that you shouldn’t try, but you have to be careful and calculated. Don’t be shy about reaching out for help.

About Karen

I turned the BIG 5-0 and My whole world completely shifted. I'd heard how reaching mid-life can trigger some pretty Big changes and awakening for most women.

As my 50th birthday approached I found myself thinking.." Wow..where did my life go... how do I want to live the second part?" From going through a divorce to overcoming Thyroid cancer my journey has definitely kept me on my toes But this has all led me to my Path of Freedom.

I began my career as a business owner several decades ago as a dog groomer. And I loved it. However, 23 years later my body was hurting a lot and I was burnt out. What the heck was I going to do at the age of 40 with No university or college degree?

I decided to go back to school. to become a Registered Massage therapist and later became a Holistic nutritionist, Network Marketing Leader, Global Speaker and Freedom Coach.

Over the years from what I have learned and experienced from my own healing and coaching journey plus coaching others through their life's challenges I now coach women to find their freedom.. that they have been searching for.

I am here to tell you that it is possible to find freedom and I know you can do it. I have done it too!!

www.fiftyandfree.com

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Feeling Stuck in Life? Freedom is Within Your Grasp Featuring Karen Theimer

Sun, 8/8 12:05PM • 1:09:09

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

people, day, called, life, learned, thought, big, talking, stuck, terry, esther hicks, hear, journey, listen, find, karen, path, teach, journaling, thoughts

SPEAKERS

Karen, Terry, Roy Barker

Roy Barker 00:03

Hello and welcome to another episode of Feeding Fatty This is Roy

Terry 00:05

this is Terry

Roy Barker 00:06

Of course we are the past podcast that is chronicling our journey to wellness diet. Not necessarily a diet but just what we eat also exercising, moving, doing a lot of different things there. And mindset. You know, as we've come through this journey this far, you know, mindset has been one of the bigger issues that we seem to identify we, we know things we should be doing but actually doing them and then actually making them sustainable. There's some big gaps there. Also, we talk to professionals in the field from time to time and today is no different. I'm gonna let Terry introduce Karen for us,

Terry 00:43

Karen Theimer it she turned the big three big three Oh, there you go. Karen

Karen 00:49

I wish

Terry 00:50

turn the big five oh, and her whole world completely shifted. she'd heard how approaching midlife could trigger some pretty big changes and awakenings for most women. As her birthday her 50th birthday approach she found herself thinking, wow, where did my life go? How do I want to live the second part? from going through a divorce to overcoming thyroid cancer. her journey has definitely kept her on her toes. But this is all led her to her path of freedom.

She began her career as a business owner several decades ago as a dog groomer, which she loved. However, 23 years later, her body was hurting a lot and she was burnt out what the heck was she going to do at the age of 40 with no university or college degree. She decided to go back to school to become a registered massage therapist and later became a holistic nutritionist, network marketing leader, global speaker and freedom coach over the years from what she's learned and experienced from her own healing and coaching journey plus coaching others through their life's challenges.

She now coaches women to find their freedom that they have been searching for. And she's here to tell you that it is possible possible to find freedom. She knows you can do it. She has done it too. Karen Theimer. Welcome to the show. We're so happy to have you here.

Karen 02:11

Oh my gosh, thank you. I was gonna say Tori, Roy and Terry. I so appreciate it. And it's a. It's always inspiring and always interesting to hear somebody else read your bio. Right? Because you're like, wow, I have overcome a lot in life, haven't it? Right. It's always a good reminder. Right?

Terry 02:31

Who is that that they're talking about? That's really me. I can't wait to hear her speak.

Karen 02:39

So thank you for having me on today. I'm really excited to have this conversation. And

Roy Barker 02:44

yeah, thanks for taking time out of your day. It's, uh, yeah, it's a great, you know, what we'd like, audience or guests with good stories. So you've got a good story, it's like that you're on a good path. So, but tell I know that Terry, read a little bit of your history, but tell us a little bit more, you know, kind of about the path that you were on what made you you know, decide to finally take some, it seems like some action to help you kind of move in a different area. So tell us how those decisions were made.

Karen 03:15

Okay, um, I'll try to keep it short. But yeah, like you said, like, when I turned 50, I was kind of thinking, like, like, really was like, Where has my life gone? You know, I know a lot of women think the same. I don't know how men think. But I know women were like, like, Where did life go? Right? So for me, it was just thinking, Okay, well, what am I going to do with the rest of my life? Because I felt stuck. And life's threw me a curveball at 50.

And I became single. And, and at the same time, I actually got introduced to network marketing as well. But I just, you know, and then and then, so life just happened. And I thought, Oh, my gosh, what is going on? You know, here I am, you know, becoming single, having a single income, you know, having to sell our house move out, and just life. You know, I mean, obviously, when you get married, you don't think you're gonna get divorce, right? Nor vendure out. It's interesting how we manifest stuff. But anyway, so for me, in 2018, actually, it was in 2017, I thought, I got to go on a healing journey, because I was so stuck in my past.

And I had a hard time letting go on my husband, even though I didn't want to be in the marriage. Right. And I'm very grateful him and I are still friends. But I had a hard time letting go of that and plus some other things that were going on in my life. And I thought, Hey, I'm going to go on a healing journey. So I originally was going to start at the end of 2017. But then life happened, and then I went okay, that's it. My theme for 2018 is about finding Karen.

And let's go on a healing journey. And that's when I decided to learn more about how our mind body spirit works. And I had no idea that my life would end up where I'm at today. Like, if you had asked me five years ago, if I'd be doing being a podcast, I'd be like, you're not. I can't talk. I don't know what? Who's gonna listen to me? Right?

So, yeah, so I just started diving deep and understanding, you know, like, how does our mind work, you know, and then I, and then I learned how, you know, we're programmed from children, with all kinds of, you know, thoughts and beliefs and all that. And then I realized, I learned that when, when we have a thought it releases a chemical, and then we get an emotion, and then that releases another chemical. And then you get another thought, and it just spirals.

So from there, I just started diving deep into my own journey, and just was like, Okay, I got some stuff I need to heal from my past, and growing up and with my family, and my parents and whatever. And, and that's what led me on this journey today. And I realized we really can do anything we want. Like, we really can, you know, we just have to dream bigger and, and work on that belief on ourselves. So that's sort of how I got on this journey.

Roy Barker 06:16

It's interesting that, well, I'm gonna speak for me from people of my generation that, you know, we, you went to work somewhere, work there. 30-35 years, every, you know, you lived in the same house lit, same town. It was just pretty routine. And I think something that I learned that, uh, you know, not probably not young enough, but at an earlier age is that change is okay. I mean, I worked at a huge company, you know, decent job, but it was one of these golden handcuffs, jobs that people stay because of the benefits of retirement.

And at some point, I was like, I just can't do this anymore, you know, banking on that, heck, you could die tomorrow and not get any of that. So the thing about, you know, being happy finding who we are, I think, and the other part is that it changes I mean, this may be who we are today, things may happen in a year or two, that we pick another path or we go somewhere else, and that's totally okay. We're not, you know, it's not like you make a decision when you're 18. And you have to live with, you know, for the rest of your life.

Karen 07:22

Oh, my gosh, it's so true. And I've changed my career. I mean, like you said, like, I've been through dog grooming, went back to school at the age of 40, you know, got into massage therapy, and then had cancer and then went, Okay, well, maybe I should learn something about nutrition. And that led me on, you know, this path. Right. So yeah, I mean, change is good. I always like change. I was always

Roy Barker 07:45

the message that comes out of the show, I hope that we can just tell that if there's just one person that hears out there that is contemplating changes, just, you know, you need to be methodical about we can't just discard things and you know, get a fresh start. But there are ways to do that. And I just encourage everybody to really evaluate that

Terry 08:04

and doing it with small steps. I mean, that's, that's how you did it. Right? Yeah, you had to and change is inevitable. I mean, my gosh, all the things that you went through your cancer journey and all I mean, that just sheds a whole new light on what your life purpose is, and trying to find it.

Karen 08:23

Yeah, yeah. And it is it is baby steps. And this is what I coach people on it, right? Like, it's not an easy journey. But it's so worth it. It's so worth it to claim your life back, right and find that joy, and my mission in this world is to teach people to find that joy again, especially right now, because a lot of people are just feeling stuck and they're lost.

And they've lost what it feels like to have fun again. Yeah. And I'm all about you know, we I looked at a Charlie Brown and Snoopy cartoon one day. And it said, because I always said, Oh, you only live once. And I love what the cartoon said. It said, No, you die once you live every day. Right? And that has stuck with me. And it's true, like take every day and just live it to the best you can. Right. But be kind to yourself.

Roy Barker 09:11

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I like your positive spin on, you actually call yourself a cancer. thriver Yeah. And I think that, you know, we talk about surviving, and then, you know, we can kind of set us in a mood of, you know, a lot of times you wait for that next shoe to fall like, Is it going to happen again, and we spend time worrying about things. We call it borrowing trouble, and you know, we can sit here and worry about things that may or may not happen and we forget to live to the day today the day that we do have for sure

Terry 09:45

in the present, right. Yeah.

Roy Barker 09:48

Yeah. You know, I would encourage everybody to go on take a four mile walk in the August heat, just

Terry 09:58

miles yesterday.

Roy Barker 10:00

We had a we had a little come apart yesterday, I was a little overzealous, and I thought we had this place around the bed. I had this place, I wanted to take her so bad, but it was a little further than I remembered. So anyway. But, you know, it's one thing to it's that we did something yesterday, we wouldn't have normally done. And it was we're still healing from that. But it was fun. We've got great memories of that walk. And you know, that's the thing. I think that when we get older, you know, we start thinking about all these great memories that we've had in the fun things that we've done, we just can't lose sight of that.

Karen 10:35

Yeah, yeah. And sometimes we just have to, you know, you're gonna have your good days, you're gonna have your bad days. And sometimes it's just surrender. Like, this is one of the biggest things I've learned this year is just surrender. Right? If my day is not going the way I planned, it's okay, I surrendered to what shows up, right? Instead of going, Oh, my God, my day should have been like this, I should have done that.

And that's just beating yourself up, right? Sometimes the universe, your higher spirit, whatever you believe in, sometimes the saying no, like, you need to slow down. You need to just maybe get connected to nature. Go hug a tree, if that's what you have to write. I used to always joke about that kind of stuff. But then I learned that it's really good for you. But yeah, it really does. People are surprised, like, you'd be surprised if you actually go hug a tree how you feel right? But you know, and it's just just because like, my biggest thing right now is just be kind to ourselves, because we are, nobody can bully us more than ourselves.

Roy Barker 11:36

That is so true, talking about surrender, I hate to use the immortal words of cheap trick, but there is there is a dividing line between surrendering and give yourself enough giving yourself away. And that's always been a line and that song that stands out that surrender, but don't give yourself away. And there is a way to surrender to the day to surrender to the circumstances around us that we can't control. But we don't have it doesn't mean we have to set us on a whole new path. That just means that we have to listen to the universe, listen to the energy and everything around us. And not fight that sometimes I think we can do you know, it's kind of part of that being unkind to ourselves, but we can battle ourselves so much that we just get beaten down. Yeah,

Karen 12:24

it's so true. It's so true. And that's one of the biggest things I've learned this year is to just, and I laugh sometimes, right? Like if my day is going completely opposite, and everything seems to be blocking me from what I want to do. And I just once I catch it, because it's around awareness, which is what I teach people as well, right? And sometimes I just catch it, and then all sudden, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, and I started laughing because it's kind of funny, right? It's being shown to me every which way? Yeah.

Roy Barker 12:55

I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Karen 12:56

Oh, sorry. Um, you know, and I teach people as well, like, especially in massage while in coaching as well that our body speaks a language. So does the universe right? Our body speaks a language and it said, and it will poke you, right? Does this hurt? Does this hurt? Now like say you get a little back twinge, right. And then all of a sudden, you know, I'll get people when they all of a sudden can't walk. And they're like, my back went out. I don't know what happened. But they've probably been experiencing over.

I don't know how long little twinges, little twinges. And we ignore it right. So the body will be like, are you paying attention? Are you paying attention? Same with digestive issues, like all kinds of stuff, but just to keep it simple? And it'll be like, are you paying attention? Are you paying attention? Are you paying it? And it will get louder? and louder? And then it takes I say it takes a two by four to you and say are you paying attention now? And that's usually when your back gets that goes out? Or you get some disease or whatever, right? So it's always, you know, we listen to our body when it gets too loud. Most people not everybody, so yeah, did you? Oh, I'm

Terry 14:01

sorry. No, no, go ahead. No, I was gonna say did you uh, did you find yourself changing your diet, eating habits and eating different foods than you had before? I mean, did that help with your whole body experience and awareness of what's going on with your body?

Karen 14:23

Yeah, so when I had when I found out I had cancer, right, like, I just was massaging my neck one day and felt this lamp and I was like, Oh, I didn't think anything of it. Right. And then, you know, to make a long story short A year later, and that's when I found out Actually, no, it wasn't even a year later that I found out I had cancer, and I was a big smoker. I ate a lot of fast food.

And I remember being in massage school, like how can I treat people with massage and the holistic approach and be a smoker and eat fast food, right? But when I found out that I had cancer, I was like, Okay, this is my wake up call because I remember every day I was quitting smoking. Every day I'd light up a cigarette. One day I quit for like, four, four hours. I was all excited, found a cigarette, lit it up. And I was like, You idiot, like, what would it take for you to quit smoking?

Roy Barker 15:11

Because it was so easy to quit. I'll just have a few more. Because there's like, it was so easy. I'll just have a few more I can quit tomorrow.

Karen 15:19

Yeah. So that led me to quitting smoking, because that was my wake up call. I'm like, okay, I hear you, right. This is like, be careful what you ask for, because you will receive it. And then I decided that I'm going to learn about nutrition. And I met this holistic nutritionist who said, you can heal the body through nutrition. So I was like, oh, okay, I didn't know that. Right.

So that's what I went back to school, became a holistic nutritionist. And now I'm partnered with a bunch of, you know, like many different professions, some people are functional medicine, practitioners and stuff. So I started learning even more about how our body works, and the food we eat. So it's, it's amazing, like, we really are what we eat. Yeah, that is a real thing.

Roy Barker 16:05

That is something that we have learned, I think, one of our very first guest, he was a, an actual doctor card and cardiologist in but talked about food. And you know, so food is medicine, and that it's very true.

Terry 16:21

And he was a chef, he was a chef, as well, at University of Montana. He was in charge of that nutrition program. And we called him chef, Dr. Mike is I Well, I kept getting it all confused, Chef doctor, but but good. I mean, talking about all the different nutritional aspects and what what to, you know, put turmeric with this, and we have different ailments. So, you know, just working with type two diabetes where he has and I have hypothyroidism. I was going to ask you also,

Karen 16:55

did you have any thyroid issues? Then? I was hypothyroid as well. We're so had you been

Terry 17:01

on like Synthroid or levothyroxine for years. And?

Karen 17:07

Yeah, I did. I did. And it's funny because they they say, I don't know that. Out of all the cancers. thyroid is not, or I guess smoking is not contributed to, to thyroid cancer, but I wouldn't quote me on that. It's just Somewhere I read that I was like, really, that's weird. But what's interesting when it comes to disease in our body, is that I say it's from a stuck emotion. Like nutrition definitely is a big part of it. But thyroid, like anything to do with your throat area has to do with your voice not being heard. And you're not speaking your truth.

Roy Barker 17:41

Hmm, interesting, huh?

Karen 17:43

That I may have made so much sense to be graded out. Wow, that's a whole lot could be a hold on.

Roy Barker 17:51

I'm gonna be having a treat this afternoon.

Terry 17:56

I'm gonna get into the discomfort. Oh, yeah.

Roy Barker 18:01

Yeah, there's so much about that the, what we hold in can be so damaging to us. And there's, you know, we don't, I don't think we, I think there's a path that we could take to not necessarily be a raging maniac. But there are ways to, you know, get that out in a pleasant and

Terry 18:23

I don't say control, but you know, just in a way that we don't have to, you know, chase people off from us, but we can do the things to let things out of our body just like, lean into the fields and then not let it just stack a stack upon one, you know, one after the other to where you do feel like a raging lunatic. Yeah.

Karen 18:43

Well, we're really good at baring our feelings, because we're taught that as children, right? Don't cry. What do you need to cry about? Put on your big boy pads? You know, big boys don't cry, you know, like, so we're shut. We're taught to shut down these emotions. What do you need to be angry about? You've got everything here. You know, like, you know, so what we've done is we've just buried those emotions. How that shows up later in life is it can be mental health, it can be, you know, disease, disease in our body. It can be all kinds of stuff, right? Oh, it's okay to feel the feelings because they're there to teach you something.

Terry 19:21

Yeah. Children should be seen and not heard. That was a big actually. Right. thyroid. Child. Yeah, that's right.

Roy Barker 19:29

Well, the, I guess there's something else that we talk on on my business show I've talked about before is its reaction versus response. And I think this is a good thing. You know, kind of it's something good to remember sometimes we have to respond on people. I'm not saying that we don't sometimes we just have to call it out like it is. But in a lot of times, it's okay to react and to feel the way that we do but sometimes we need to count like 12345 or 10 Before we actually make the response, make sure we think about it.

And we're responding from that logical place, not, you know, just the emotion flowing out. And I think that's the, that's the part that sometimes we miss is we think that emotional, rad responses, getting it out. But I think there's a place somewhere in between where we can actually preserve relationships that need to be preserved. Now, I'm not saying that there's some times that some of those need to go away. You know, because we, it's like you, the people that you surround, you're the average income of people that you surround yourself with. Also, we can say, where the average happiness and health of those people that we surround ourselves, it's very important, a lot of influence lots of influence.

Karen 20:47

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And it is important to Yeah, I mean, sometimes we need to control I guess those emotions, depending on where you are and who you're with, right? But then when you're by yourself, or you're going wherever you are, then it's like, Okay, why did I react like that? Like, why was that such a strong reaction? Yes. Okay, maybe I had to, you know, do the counting, right? You know, because maybe you're in a public place, and you don't want to have a tantrum, right? or whatever it is, or take it out on that person or whatever. But it's also thinking like, Okay, why did I feel that? Where is that coming from? Cuz that's that person just triggered you. That's it. Right? So, and with dudes, it's

Roy Barker 21:30

different, because, you know, I still learning even at my age, I'm still learning, you know, we always want to fix everything. And sometimes it's just, so a lot of times I have to ask Terry, is this just a vent? Or do you need a solution? That way? I

Terry 21:43

know. I love it. That's perfect. We forget to do that. It's like, Okay, are you Yeah. Are you just talking to talk? And do you need feedback? What's the deal, man, I'm just like, No, I just think that. Girls, Girls, Girls like us. We're all with the way that we respond. Is, is considered, you know, we're just always labeled emotional because we're females. And you know, it's got to do with their cycle or their menopause or whatever. You know, okay. Well, might have a little bit to do with that. But no, you're just being a jerk. Or, you

Roy Barker 22:26

know, no car. Stepping.

Karen 22:32

Oh, my God, you guys are flooding. I always say what did I there, there was a comedian that I enjoyed listening to on YouTube. What was his name? Mark, Mark Gunther, I think is his name. And he talks about how wet men and women are different, right? And how we think different, right? You know, and I don't know, man, depends on how you want to take this, but I my interpretation of it is, yes, men are the fix. It's right. And they want to fix everything. And women are the gatherers. Right? There is also another play called defending the caveman.

That was amazing. Oh, my God, it was so funny. But But the way I see things and whether it's right or wrong, I don't know. But it's like, it's almost like, men need to know that they're doing a good job. Yeah. Women. I'm sorry, my battery's about to die over. And women, you know, we just want to know, do you have our back? Right? Like, you know, we want to know, is everything going to be okay? And sometimes that's all we need? Right? Do you hear what I'm saying? And is everything gonna be okay? You know, so that's my That's true. My very short version of that, right? So that's wrong, right. But that's my interpretation. And

Terry 23:46

true. And there's a lot of there's a lot of truth to that. I agree. Totally.

Roy Barker 23:51

I want to take a step back for just a minute when we were talking about, you know, when our days not going well, and I'm not good at this. So I'm not saying this is not me telling this is what I'm learning as I go, is that, you know, sometimes we bump up against that stuff, and we try so hard to make to fit a round peg into a square hole. There is a fine line between, like we said, surrendering or pushing forward and just bull you know, bolon our way through.

But I have, I've got such an awesome example of this thing that happened a couple of weeks ago, there's a software that I use regularly. And I used the free version, and I wanted to upgrade to the paid portion that had a little more features so could not for some reason I could not get the purchase to go through. wouldn't go through and this was like, I don't know, not that much money. $85 $90 somewhere in there. A credit card. Oh, I know why my credit card failed because it was overseas, so they're like, hey, do you sure you know, we just want to make sure this is legit. Yeah, it is. still wouldn't go through, wrote the people anyway. This was just like going on and on. But in the midst of this, check in there stuff out, I found this other component, that standalone was like another $90 that I'm like, Oh, I would really love to have that.

And then I found a bundle. I could get them both for like $120. I mean, it was amazing. But the way I look at this is, you know, the universe was protecting me a little bit by holding up this transaction. And look what I found, I got a better deal for what I wanted in something else. And sometimes we don't always find that answer. But sometimes, you know, there is a reason why things don't work out the way we want them to.

And sometimes we have to be thankful that somebody out there some, you know, force or energy, if you have a God, your God is looking out for you. That keeps us from doing those things. It's hard. But if if we will take a look back and see the benefits of why that didn't work out. Usually there's always an explanation, I think, personally.

Karen 26:05

Oh, my gosh, I totally agree. I absolutely agree with that. Because sometimes if we're just hitting these roadblocks all the time, whatever that is, right, like whether you're trying to purchase something or anything in life, if we keep hitting roadblocks, that's because you're not on the right path. Right? not in alignment, what you're supposed to what your purpose is, right? And it's like the the like you say, the universe, God, whichever has a different has a bigger picture for you. Right? Not going that way. It's going that way. Right?

Roy Barker 26:41

Yeah. And we have to be sensitive to that. Because, again, there's fine lines with all of these theories, because, you know, there's the listen and see that it's hard. And then there's sometimes there's that, where you got to, you know, you have to break through. But it's like, if you've tried to break through five or six times, you know, sometimes you have to question Am I on that right path? Because there's also the theory, if you're on the right path, things just seem to fall into place.

And it's much easier. So I don't know. I don't know where I come down on that. It's a question that we discussed quite often, you know, with things that we have going on is okay. Is this the push through moment? Or is this the You're not? Not on? Right, bad moment? It's hard. It's hard.

Terry 27:25

It's hard to focus on the goal. If you're getting all those roadblocks. And there's a lot of those sometimes and being able to understand you just be aware that, hey, that is what happened is I was being blocked. You know, like with Roy's story about the software. I mean, the fact that you can realize that that was what was happening, you know,

Roy Barker 27:53

yeah, well, this just wasn't I'm not saying that. I didn't just like put in my card and hit the thing. And it failed. Oh, no, no,

Terry 28:00

And everybody,

Roy Barker 28:01

I was calling everybody, I tried this transaction no less than 10 times. You know, I did this I did that it was just, I was a maniac almost there for you know, for a couple days trying to, it's like, I know, I can get this to go through and it just one way or another? Gosh, darn it. Oh, my gosh, yeah. But yeah, I think it's so yeah. And then what that did it. You know, it kind of hampers you in your efforts. Because not only did I get off track because that was when I was singularly focused on for a few minutes.

But there was also a lot of negativity with this, like, what the heck is going on? And how can I fix this? And sometimes we just need to set with ourself. And that's kind of what I ended up doing way too late in the process. But I ended up just sitting with myself for a minute and saying, okay, something's not right here. It's going to all manifest. And sure enough, you know, when I got back on and got an answer, it all came very clear. Yeah.

Karen 29:00

And sometimes that's what we have to do, right? Just take a step back. Just Okay, let's breathe, right? And then just let the answer come in. And there you go. We make things so we can make it very complicated at times. Right. Now, I

Roy Barker 29:14

want to talk about your steps to intention. So don't let let's not forget that. But before we do that, you brought up laughter and we have a mutual friend, Kathy, that Okay, so one thing we've learned from this sheet for those of you that haven't listened, there's an episode out there. Kathy Nesbitt. laughter yoga.

We may not have even published it. I think it's coming down and you need to go listen to this because the short story is that, Terry and Kathy, Kathy, yeah. Karen, Cathy hooked up and so Terry's going to sit in on the laughter yoga session, like what is the and so across the room, and I hear all this commotion. Over there, and I had to stop what I was doing to just walk over and see what this was about. And at first I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is this is, this is something different.

And but after we got going through it, it's just amazing how we transformed where we were that moment. And as we use this as a follow up, you know, when I have to admit, sometimes I can probably be a little intense when I get focused in on something and do things. That's okay. I can admit that. But Terry will start this. Laughter this crazy laughter and it no matter what it makes me stop and start laughing, and it's funny how it changes the trajectory of the rest of that day.

Because there are times that I can just go off and go down in that hole and stay there all the time. But anyway, to your point, laughter and being able to stop and just laugh at ourselves laugh at the situation. It's so important to our mental health going forward from that point. Oh, my gosh, yes.

Terry 31:07

And the breathing, I mean, just the breathing aspect of you know, that deep breathing all of the, you know, working on your meridians, and even she throws in some tapping sessions and things like that. Are there What, What kinds of things do you? do you advise to do? Like, if you're in a Bosu, ball of stress? I mean, what kind of things can people do to try to take it down a notch so they can become self aware?

Karen 31:42

I'll give you a great, that's a great question. Because the laughter yoga is a great one, because you can just start laughing for the sake of laughing right? Some people feel awkward doing it right. And, but the more you do it, then it's less awkward, right? For me what I do, so I'll either go to that, or I go to music. And I'll give you a great example.

Because this morning, it was just like I said, it was one of those days that just things kept shifting, and I started getting in a bit of a cranky mood, right? And I'm like, okay, I can't be in a bad mood. about to go on a podcast. That's right. Because that just doesn't energy. You know, people pick up on energy, right? Me I listen to music, so I listen to music that brings me joy, that makes me smile that makes me want to dance and that kind of stuff.

So all I did before this was to throw on some music. I like Soca Music, right? So I just put on some music and I'm dancing around my apartment. And it just shifted that energy. That was it. Right? And then it made me smile. It made me feel good. And then I was all set to be here today. That's what that's my go to is music. Yeah. Because

Roy Barker 32:48

you mentioned that because we have the same thing. I mean, that's so funny. We woke up this morning, just be down from our admin. From my adventure. Yeah, even the dogs are like, Oh my gosh, I can't even get up. I don't even didn't even in our face to eat, you know, at seven o'clock this morning. And we were so dead. I told her I said, you know, we got a podcast today, we have got to raise that energy up. And she's like, we need music. And so we put it on, within a couple songs. You know, we were both singing and dancing and just, you know, it just really turned the day around,

Terry 33:22

man. Right. You know, thinking back to good memories go into concert? Oh, yeah, I saw them. I saw that. You know, that's always my go to Oh, yeah, I've seen them in concert in it five times. Okay, what do you say? What kind of music Did you say souca.

Karen 33:35

souca. Like, I like the I like like the, the Latin music like, I mean, I like reggae, like I like all kinds of music, you know, if it's got a good beat to it, and I can dance to it. I love it. Right. So that's usually my go to and that just happens to make me smile, and it makes me want to be on vacation. So, you know, it's just brings back those memories of being on a beach with palm trees for me.

Terry 34:00

Me too.

Roy Barker 34:03

So, yeah, I wanted to talk about intentions. Is there how can we become more intentional? You know, through our days through the week through our overall you know, bigger picture, what are some tips that you have for that?

Karen 34:19

Well, I teach people, one of the things I teach people is awareness. So check in with yourself throughout the day. I tell people check in three times a day, because people can usually remember something. Three times I find if you tell somebody five times a day, they're not going to do it. Right. So things like when you wake up in the morning, how do you feel? What kind of mood you're in? It's amazing how you can wake up in the morning you can have the best sleep and you wake up in the morning and all of a sudden you're in bad mood, or you're depressed or that kind of it's like Where did I go last night? Right?

I had a great sleep. Why am I waking up in a mood like this? Right. So and that And then I always teach people go right into gratitude. Find something you are grateful for it. If you can't think of anything, be grateful that you woke up today. Right, you woke up on this side of the ground, because that's, that's my go to is like, thank you for giving me another day in this playground, because to me, I say the world is our playground, right?

So, you know, thank you for giving me another day in this playground. And, you know, I'm grateful for that, you know, maybe be grateful for the trees, or the birds or your animals, just something so simple, right? You know, it doesn't have to be this big thing, right? Just, you know, and a lot of people find it hard to find something to be grateful. And I'm finding that right now, a lot of people are in that. But I'm teaching them to like, just, let's find one thing, maybe it's, you know, your dog or whatever, right?

Roy Barker 35:49

Yeah. Right, I think that we can all look, it's, you know, even if we're having a bad day, so, you know, in the heat of whatever's happening, it's like this, you know, there's nothing right in this world. But if you take a deep breath, and think about, you know, food, shelter, the basics of life, and you know, we, there are days, we go on walks in the morning, and it, you know, I can't even get to a point, I'm just like, it's just the beauty of walking every day is something different. We live in a great place with a lot of wildlife. And so, you know, like, last night, we took the dogs out, we had a big spotlight, and there was about I guess, three to three, four raccoons down at our feeders

Terry 36:32

at the deer feed. The deer feed,

Roy Barker 36:35

but you know, we have ducks, turkeys, we have all kinds of beautiful wildlife. But, you know, I think you have to kind of condition yourself because there are I'm not gonna lie and say there aren't days that, you know, I miss all of that, and I'm focused on this credit card thing won't go through or, you know, whatever this may be. But, you know, sometimes you just have to stop and look at this, look at the little things around you and realize what a beautiful world that we do live in full of opportunity. We are easily we can change our situations. If if it's just a bad for stuck in a bad situation. There are things that we can do.

Karen 37:15

Yeah, exactly. So I teach. Yeah, so I teach people, you know, like I said, to check it in the morning, maybe check in at lunchtime or dinner time, I always find pick a meal to check in around. And and then before you go to bed, what kind of a mood are you and when you go to bed, right? And, and yeah, and just try to bring it back to I am grateful for if you're if you're in a bad mood or whatever kind of mood, just come back to your breath, come back to just finding something you're grateful for. Because there is something out there. And you can't attract good things. If you're living in misery, right? So if you want good things you got you have to go into gratitude. Right?

Roy Barker 37:57

Yeah, cuz I think that our mindset that we're in, we attract that. And, and of course, then we seek it out too. Because, you know, again, I'll just speak for me and say that, you know, it's like, well, this didn't, this isn't working, right doesn't look good. And then all of a sudden, it's like, you can focus on all those things that aren't moving in the right direction at that moment, instead of saying, hey, the other thing too, I try to put it in perspective is how big is this thing in the scheme of life? You know, is it a piece, I hate to keep using it, but it's a good example, this piece of software, if I'd never gotten that upgrade, it really wouldn't have been a big thing.

Maybe it can make, you know, some of our efforts that we do easier, but you know, really, in the scheme of life, it was nothing. And it was nothing to even waste. One minute being upset or disoriented or you know, out of bounds or whatever you want to call it. I don't think I wouldn't like fling and stuff around. But I was definitely you know, internally I was definitely you know, it was all welling up in me and just trying to let that go.

Terry 39:03

Yeah. You mentioned when we were talking at our first conversation you mentioned about watching Esther Hicks on YouTube. I you know, I I'm on her email list for daily meditations that she sends out, but I need to I'm so glad that you mentioned that because I do enjoy those and I need to go back and watch her. What can you talk a little bit about what you incorporate into your, your life and your training

Karen 39:43

that Esther Hicks I love Esther and Abraham and they so this friend of mine who I met through this network marketing company on with, she knew I was really stuck at the beginning, right and I was going through a divorce And going through all this stress, and all of a sudden, she just said to me, she goes, can you need to download this book called? Money and law of attraction by Esther Hicks. I had no idea who this was. But at that point, I was like, somebody just point me in the right direction, right? Like, I just hear, I'll go wherever you take me to write. And so I did I download that and she goes, go listen to chapter eight, I can't remember exactly what chapter eight was about. But what it what my big aha was about how we can change our thoughts through the day, and how, when we keep trying to think of the right word, when we keep repeating that same scenario, you know, like, how dare that person do that? How dare that person do that?

Then you create all these different stories around how that person did whatever the person did to wrong you, right? Yes, this was me and my ex, right? Like, how dare he get another girlfriend, he should be fighting for us. But I was stuck on this story. Right? You know, and stuck in I don't know what I didn't actually really want the marriage to work out. But anyway, that's, besides the point. Right, but whatever. That's another story. But But anyway, but I was stuck on this story. Right? And, and the anger and all that kind of stuff, right? And when I listened to Esther, that's how I kind of learned how the the mind works and how emotions work.

So I started learning basic things. And I'm like, Oh, so every time I'm in the past, I'm like, oh, wait a minute, my body wants to go back to the past where it's comfortable. Yeah, right. So I started understanding this stuff. It's like, Oh, okay. And even now what I'm going, like, start reliving something that's in the past, like, Ah, this is a chemical reaction. This is just me wanting to go where it's comfortable. No, we're gonna go forward. So that led me into actually Dr. Joe Dispenza, as well.

So I ended up taking one of his courses and started just learning more, because I wanted to understand how I think, right, like, why does my mind think that? Why am I like this? Why do I do that? Why do I have all these patterns? You know, why do I? Why do I procrastinate all the time? You know, just all these things that stopped me from moving forward. That's,

Terry 42:15

that's funny that I mean, not funny. But interesting is bring up Joe dispenza, too, because I have that. The What is it the habit, but breaking the habit and the habits or something out of yourself or, you know, bad habits of being yourself or something like that? And I'm just at the beginning of it, I'm getting bogged down by the scientific part of it. And I know I need to push through, because so many people have mentioned his work, and and how, how it has helped them throughout their lives as well.

Roy Barker 42:53

It's funny, are you Oh, I'm sorry, brother. No, I was just gonna say it's funny, we heard this morning on the show, and I wished I would have jotted this lady's name down, she just put out a book about, about conflict and divides, but she called them something like misery entrepreneurs. And she says that, you know, we have to learn to identify the misery entrepreneurs and avoid them or stay away from them. And I thought, what a great term that is, because there are, you know, people in our lives that just, you know, they seek that out, they suck us into it. And it's just all draining.

Terry 43:33

I think she was talking about resolution with conflict, it was some some conflict was in the name of her book, and it was on at one of the morning shows, you know, she but she was talking about it just in everyday life, but like, you know, the political class atmosphere and, you know, everybody has the same goal, they, they just have different ways to go about it. And, and just because one person thinks one way doesn't mean that it's wrong, and they're not the enemy, you don't have to go to that place in your mind where you think, Oh, yeah, they're not thinking like I am.

So they're the enemy. They know nothing. No, you just have to kind of listen to everything in general and and be open to another opinion about things and how and see how other people are thinking. So maybe your critical thinking can get into that, that process and have not been able to get into your stuck mode, you know, because I know I go there all the time. I get stuck. And I go back to all of my old habits of thinking, oh my god, they're judging me. They're judging me. They're judging me. And I don't know why because I really don't care what people think about me. So I don't know why it's hard for me to come out and say something. I don't understand it.

Karen 44:55

Because usually if we think other people are judging because we're all a mirror of each other So if you feel like people are judging you, where are you judging yourself? That's true. And it's, you know, people Esther Hicks is the best therapist. And really, when it comes down to it, people aren't thinking about me. They've got their own stuff going on. Who am I? What kind of ego? Do I have to think that somebody is really got me in their thoughts? You know? It's so yes, you are seized on that guy. Right? Oh, and then I'll go down that route. But that's what I love about Esther Hicks. Right. Like, one of the things lately, it was like, I wanted to heal some judgment around myself. Right.

So one of the other healing part of my healing journey is doing plant medicine. And so last time I went to a ceremony, it was like, Okay, let's get rid of this judgment on myself. Because this is crazy, right? Like, it's, it's slowing me down. It's stuff that I'm hanging on to that doesn't that doesn't serve me anymore. Right. And I forgot where I was going with that.

Anyway. But Oh, yeah. So one of the things yeah, so one of the things my friend gave me as she goes, here can go listen to Esther Hicks and judgment. And there's like, it just, it was my goal to she's the best therapist, honestly, she's the best therapist. If you're stuck in anything. Then go to Esther Hicks, if you're stuck on, I don't know, whatever it is, you're going through just Esther, Google Esther Hicks and anger Esther, Esther Hicks and anxiety, whatever, right?

She's my go to for everything. And one of the things I learned about judgment is that there is nothing wrong with any of us. Nothing. Not one little thing there is wrong with any of us. You know, we just create whatever story in our mind because somebody planted something in our brain as a child. But there's really nothing wrong with any of us. And we're exactly where we are supposed to be right now. Right? We just keep healing and keep moving forward. Right?

Roy Barker 47:14

Yeah, my priest has a good saying, you know, because when we get kind of mired down in our own thoughts is that our mind is like a grinder. But we get to choose what it grinds. And again, it's it's a part of the self awareness and realization that if I can catch myself starting down that path, it's like, you know, you try to replace whatever the negative thought is, with something that's positive, you know, if something's going wrong is like, Alright, let's think about these, you know, kind of the gratitude, let's run gratitude through this thing.

And all the things that we could, would, should be thankful of. And, again, sometimes you can veer off track and you don't, you're not self aware, sometimes self awareness is the first thing that goes out the window. So you really have to be, you know, it's kind of like training ourselves. We just have to train ourselves to be aware of why do I feel this way? What is happening? what's around me? Is there anything I can do to change it? If not, then can we avoid it?

Karen 48:18

Yeah, yeah, it's, uh, awareness is such a huge thing. And it doesn't happen overnight. And this is a journey of learning your awareness. And okay, here is my life lesson around this. I'll give you an example. When all the crazy times right when all of this first started, you know, a close friend of mine and I we were arguing like crazy. This actually almost ruined our friendship, right. And I see things one way she sees another she was trying to prove her point to me, I was trying to prove my point.

And it was a big ego battle. Right? Like, it's just our egos fighting against one another. That is it. Right. So anyway, we went okay, that's it, we got to take a timeout, right? Because we were so angry. So a few days later, I kind of and I'm a big fan of journaling to get to my to get to the root answer of all this. And it's like, wait a minute, and this is my awareness. Right?

Not everybody has to think like I do. That's what makes me unique, right? Like, not everybody has to think the way I do, and it's okay. And everybody is going through what they need to go through during this time to wake up, whatever that looks like to them. Right? And then and then once I realized that with myself, this taught me compassion. When I always thought I was a compassionate person. And then I discovered I'm not as compassionate as I thought. Right?

So it was like, okay, but that was my big awareness. And I'm grateful that we didn't it didn't ruin our friendship because we talked about it and we just went, Okay, you know, you think this way, I think that way, and it's okay, because we're all on this journey together. At the end of it.

Roy Barker 49:55

There's a there's a book that I read years ago called the slack And there's different variations from different authors. But I think it's the it's consistency in what we do. And I'm talking about like, awareness, being aware, journaling, meditation, actions and thoughts. So the premise of the book is that if you meditate one day, you're not going to get much, you know, if you journal one day, if you're aware, one day, we really don't get much out of that.

But if we do it every day, and we're consistent over time, and maybe, you know, we start smaller and grow, I'm not really talking about that as much as just the consistency of doing this because meditation, very difficult for me, but I get so much out of it, if I just push myself every day. Because there are some days, I can't turn my thoughts off, I'm just like, all over the board, you know, instead of being able just to, for me, I like to think about my breathing, maybe, you know, have gratitude. Instead of Oh, my gosh, I've got a call coming up in 30 minutes, or, you know, need to take the trash out.

It's just, you'd be surprised that when you quiet your mind, all these crazy, random thoughts that started coming in, but you know, it's like, I think that once you we, you know, we don't have to do everything at once. But if we start something, just be be committed to doing it for a long period of time. That way, you will finally start to see results.

Terry 51:26

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Baby steps. Everything is baby steps. Or I was gonna say it's coming back to the baby steps to this now. And I'm,

Karen 51:34

yeah, I'm a big the things you the things you resist. That's where you need to persist, right? Like I avoided I hated being quiet. I hated journaling. I hated all these things. I didn't want to do it. And I know, that's what I had to do. Right. So

Roy Barker 51:53

another good book, I don't know why I'm pushing all these books today. But

Terry 51:57

what's the down? name for this? Yeah,

Roy Barker 51:59

what's the I can't think of his name now. But basically, he, he talks about the obstacle is the way and I think, you know, it's kind of what you're saying today is that, you know, sometimes, and also, when we solve a problem, it's like, it doesn't mean that this is going to solve everything for the rest of our life, we solve a problem today, and there's going to be others that come up.

We just have to be prepared and be in the right mindset to take these challenges and different things on and realize that it's we're never going to be at a point where there's just nothing and you know, when, when I'm at a point where there's nothing, start looking around, because it's like, what have I missed, but we do have those good days where there's nothing, I don't want to overlook that. But life is just full of challenges. And we just have to learn to take them on. It's how we take them on.

Karen 52:51

Yeah, but we need the challenges to grow. Yes, no, right. If we don't have challenges, then we're stuck. Now we're just like just living. We're just coasting.

Roy Barker 53:00

Right? Right. So I like

Karen 53:02

teaching people how to dream again. That's another one. Right? That's another part of my coaching. Like, let's dream again.

Roy Barker 53:08

I love that. So there's so much there's so much Yeah, cuz I'm a dreamer. And that's one thing I have to, you know, sometimes poke Terry into just having that dream, you know, what, what does that look like? And sometimes they're not that you don't always have to have the achievable dream. I mean, some, you know, it's nice to dream and aspects that we can achieve. But sometimes we just need that time away. And just to have those thoughts.

Terry 53:35

Yeah. And I don't, I mean, set, you know, I just got so bogged down from all the years of raising my kids put my career on hold, doing all that stuff. And then it's like, wait a minute, everybody's gone. Now what's going on, you know, so I don't even know what my dream is. But I know I've got a lot of them, I just kind of need to hone in on different aspects.

Roy Barker 54:00

And this is such a good time in life. Because of that, you know, people always worried about older age, but I tell you what being you know, older has been, it's really good because you have a lot more freedoms, you know, we're not, we don't have the kids that we're responsible for every day. So we can do things we can take more chances we can. I don't know, we can dream, the dream and we can chase it. That's the most important part is that we have the ability to chase whatever dream we have,

Terry 54:27

and it can become reality.

Karen 54:29

That's right. That's right. There's nothing that says that we can achieve whatever it is we want. Nothing. The only thing that stops us is us. us we're like we just get in our way if we would just push ourselves out of the way you know, and that's why I'm kind of at now it's like I got to a point of like, Okay, enough is enough. And that's what I got that aha like, nothing's wrong with me. I am perfect just the way I am. Right and and there is nothing I can't achieve.

That I want to do, right? Like right now I'm working on manifesting being in Costa Rica for the winter, because I don't like the snow. And our winters here in Ontario, go on forever, right? So I'm like, you know what I want to be in Costa Rica, I want, you know, like, my desire is to be able to rent a place, I haven't decided if I want to buy a place or rent a place, but whichever doesn't matter. You know, but I want to be able to run a retreat, I want to leave, you know, run a Leadership Camp, like with my, with my team, do all these things I want to do I want to have a private chef for when my when I have my leadership training and stuff, I wanna have a private chef cook for us.

So I'm manifesting all this. Okay, well, what do I need to do to get there? Okay, well, I need to do some work, right? So, you know, I need to get creative, I'm changing the word work, because work to me has such a negative thing to it. So I now I just now, starting to use the word create, now I need to get creative. Right? So I can be on purpose. So I can get my Costa Rica for three months or four months, right? Awesome. I'm still learning, right? 55, I'm still learning.

Roy Barker 56:11

That's a good dream. I like that, in the talking about creativity, something else is that we actually have to carve out time for creativity, because and this is the study that I referenced is more is more based on children, but then people have taken it and extrapolated it to adults as well. But when we are so over scheduled, and when you're in the heat of the battle, and I don't mean a negative.

But if you're, you know, grinding out a project, or if you're doing this or doing that you don't have that time that our brain needs to be creative. it you know, we have to take time and make time where we can set with ourself or take a walk or whatever we have to do, to let our brain be creative. So I think that's an important piece of this as well as make the time to let ourselves be creative. Yeah,

Karen 57:07

yeah. There's a lot to hate being a human, I say we're in university to be a human. That's it, right? Because, you know, you learn all these things in life. And if you start diving into this, this journey of finding yourself and finding that freedom, which is how 15 free came is that you start learning that everything you're taught growing up, I hate to say it are all lines, right?

Like, you know, it doesn't mean you come from a bad family, it doesn't mean you have the worst parents or anything like that, or the people around You're horrible. You just don't know what you don't know what you don't know. And, you know, and then you start learning later that it's like, oh, wait a minute. I don't have to have a university degree or college. This was my thing.

This is my, my thing that I've been doing a lot of healing and it shows up every now and then of like, you know, I was raised like you need a university degree or you need a college degree, otherwise you're not going to be successful. Right? Right. But that's baloney, right? Like I never was, I never liked school growing up until I found what I enjoyed when when I went back to school to be a massage therapist. But, you know, you don't have to write I mean, I look at one of one of the one of my mentors is is Bob Proctor.

I love Bob Proctor, he never had a university or college degree and look at where he's at. Right. So if you follow who Dr. Bob Proctor or Dr. Bob Proctor, right, he's like a Tony. Right. To me. He's like a Tony Robbins. You know, similar, you know, different little bit, but he follows the thinking grow rich. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah, but he's, you know, when I heard his story, I was like, Oh, wow. Okay. So I don't have to have that. Right. I think you follow your doctor, but then you have to

Roy Barker 59:02

follow your passion. There's a lot of, you know, things that people don't tell you. But there's so many other disciplines and things that you can do. And if you choose to get specialized education, then you know, it's easily available for you. But yeah, I think, you know, the last 10 years have shown us that sometimes having a trade or having that passion to follow. I think it's always the best Anyway, you know, you want to feel like you have something to wake up for every morning that you're, you know, you fling out of bed and run to get started on it.

Terry 59:35

Yeah,

Karen 59:36

yeah. And I'll give you an example. So, I the very first podcast, I went on, like this whole, our very first lockdown that we had gave me the kick in the pants that I needed, right? So it's like, okay, Karen, stop procrastinating on certain things and just get out there. Right. So the first podcast I did was, it was a little bit of a disaster, but it's okay. Right. My dog was barking in the background, all the things that I thought I could go wrong kind of dead, but it's alright. Right? conquer that fear. So but I was stressing because I had to send a bio.

And for probably a good five or six hours I was stressing about and file and my dogs whining in the background and there's all this noise and I'm getting angrier and I'm getting frustrated. I'm like, freaking out here. And I'm like going, I want to hit things, right? I realize I need to buy a punching bag, because that helps. Stop right. There is sometimes like, for me, it's like, I want to hit these, but I also don't want to hurt myself, right? or anybody else for that matter, right? So that some guy way of moving that. So anyway, I'm like, I could punch a wall.

No, cuz then I'll hurt myself. And then I have to go to the hospital and I could have broken my fingers and I can't work and yadda yadda. And I was like, I just thought of things I could smash and I'm like, okay, no, that's not gonna work. So I just took my cell phone and I just threw it on the ground. And I just screamed, I'm like, ah, I smashed my phone on the ground. And I sat down and I was like, Hmm, I have some anger. I need to move.

And I started laughing, right, because it's kind of funny, but I journaled it. Okay, what is this anger and the frustration all about? And it had to do exactly with who's gonna listen to me? I'm not smart enough. This is all programming, right? I'm not smart enough. I don't have a university or college degree. Right? Who's gonna listen to me? I'm not smart enough. I feel dumb. I don't know what I'm doing. Bla bla bla bla bla. So I'm like, Okay. And then through my journaling, I teach people certain techniques with journaling.

So I'm like, Okay, what do I need to do to make this icky feeling go away? My friend told me that one. So as I'm journaling this, I was like, okay, go find your certificates or any diplomas of anything you've accomplished. So I was like, Oh, I can do that. I've taken lots of workshops. I went to school for massage therapy, grabbed all my certificates, put it in a frame, and I was like, Damn smart. Right? It's just somewhere along line. Somebody programmed in my mind that I wasn't smart, because I didn't have this. But this is how it shows up. Right.

Okay. So now what do I got to do? Alright, be resourceful. Let's Google how to do a buy all like it wasn't complicated, right? Well, anything. Yeah. When you're in that state, you can't think properly. Right. So once I started journaling it going, where is this stuff coming from? Right, just Google people who do Biles that are in the same industry as me. 10 minutes. It took me like, wow, five, six hours of wicked anxiety, anger, frustration to something that took me 10 minutes, right. And when I had to go through that anger and frustration to get to the root of where all this was coming from, and it just was, didn't feel smart enough. I know. That's lie. Right? I had to go through that to go Wait a minute. I have done a lie. Yeah,

Terry 1:02:58

well, you know, and people have businesses that are not all of them are called those but they're called, they're like rage rooms where you can go and break stuff. And I went to Toronto. Oh, my gosh, I recommend it. I didn't even know I needed it. I went and visited my daughter in California and she's like, Mom, we're gonna go do this. I'm like, Okay, I'm up for smashing stuff. I felt so much release after I got done that.

Yeah, I started looking at up here. I'm like, I'm opening up one of these raid rooms. We need to do this. You know, I was like, focus. This one here. Where we are in Fort Worth, has actually has a car that they lead sledgehammers to, I mean, but they'll let you. You break anything. mirrors, lamp mirrors. Oh my gosh, don't break a mirror. I'm the superstitious one. You know, it's like, oh, seven years. just smashed. Okay. In your Yes. Right. It doesn't count in this magic room.

Karen 1:03:59

That's right. That's right. Nothing, nothing superstitious happens in it. Oh,

Roy Barker 1:04:03

well, just for any listeners out there. I'll charge half price and I've got a lot of firewood out here that you can take all the rage out on this fire without here.

Karen 1:04:13

I should I should see if the rage room in Toronto is actually open. I google that. But I don't know if it's still around. But it's a

Terry 1:04:20

brilliant idea is fun. And we videotaped each other and they videotape it for you too. But you can take your phone in there. But try not to smash it although you started

Karen 1:04:31

off with your did your phone my phone. My phone lives my phone live to tell the story. So yeah, I forgot to tell you that for my phone. But it was funny. I was like, oh, okay, I guess I got a

Terry 1:04:44

laugh and break and stuff. That's what I'm into. Love it. I love it. I love it.

Roy Barker 1:04:49

That's awesome. All right, guys. Well, we are running way over. Karen, thank you so much for being free giving your time it's been an awesome conversation. A couple things before we wrap up. Number one is what is a tool or a habit? Something that you do every day that you feel adds a lot of value to your life, and it can be professional personally, the one

Karen 1:05:11

what tool do I use a tool? Well, I really do that. So the night before, always write out what I want to do the next day. And then what I learned recently, what's become a habit of mine is pick one, the first thing that comes into my mind when I wake up from that list, that's the that's the thing that I picked to do. And that's a great, that's a great tool that I've recently learned that I was like, wow, okay, like, What do I do?

Because you can have like a list of 100 things, right? It's like, how do you choose? So it's like the first thing that comes to my mind. There's something about journaling, get out before the night before. And then when you wake up, the first thing that comes to your mind, that's the one you do,

Terry 1:05:55

it helps you sleep. Well, to add to all this stuff going on in your head, you got to do this, this this write it down, why not? Well, one thing,

Roy Barker 1:06:05

my take on that is kind of, if I don't journal the night before, and think about that, if I get up in the morning, it seems like sometimes my day can get derailed because of you know, that first email that you read, or something happens, you know, around the house or whatever. But when you sit down that night before, you know, and it doesn't have to be all encompassing, there's things going to come up during the day, for sure.

But if you list out those big want to dues or need to dues for the next day, I really think it just gives you a better start to the day, but then also take it one step further. And if one of those rises to the top, you know, as you sleep at night, then that's definitely the one that needs to go for. That's

Karen 1:06:46

good. Yeah. Yeah. That's my that's definitely one thing I do.

Roy Barker 1:06:51

That's cool. Nice. I like that. Alright, Karen will tell us tell us a little bit about Fifty and Free and then also tell people who do you like to work with? How they can? What you can do for them? And of course, how can they reach out and get a hold of you?

Karen 1:07:05

So Fifty and Free is about approaching and are in your 50s and feelilng stuck. Now you don't have to be in that age range. It could be an age range, but that's my target. Those are generally who I work with. And you're feeling stuck. You feel like life is passing you by, you know, and you're just like going, Okay, somebody pointed me in the right direction. And that's what Fifty and Free is about. I teach you to find that freedom that you've been so desperate to find.

Right. And and that you know. Yeah, so that's what Fifty and Free is about. Freedom that that you're looking for. Whatever that looks like. Yeah. Oh, and you can find me on Instagram. You can find me on Facebook. Those are the two that I'm most on. My website is fifty and free, but spell it out the fiftyandfree.ca. So that's how you can find me. I now have a new seven day program. It's called, I'm just figuring out a name for it. So it's called taste Taste Your Freedom Challenge in Seven Days. Okay, awesome.

Roy Barker 1:08:10

Yeah. All right. Well, great. Well, y'all reach out to Karen, see how she can help you achieve your freedom. You know, sometimes we don't know we get so busy being stuck that we just don't even think that there's a way out so great to talk to somebody that can help us down that journey for sure. All right, well, that's gonna do it for another episode of Feeding Fatty. Of course, I am your host, Roy. Terry, you can find us on all the major podcast platforms, Stitcher, Google, iTunes, Spotify, if we're not on one that you listen to regularly, please reach out we'd be glad to add that one.

So make your listening easier, where you're on all the major social media platforms. We probably hang out on Instagram a little more than others. So reach out there we'd be glad to interact with you. Also, a video of this interview will go up on our YouTube channel. So check that out as well as all the other great episodes that we have out there. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of your health.

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