Erinn was burning today to talk about systems in society and dealing with the bizarre times we are living in. So that's what we did. We discuss how we're reacting to the pandemic and wonder if as a culture we've taken enough time to just stop and truly acknowledge the times we're living through instead of rushing to get back to business as usual. We discuss the power of acknowledgment and normalizing, and how this can make people feel less alone or guilt ridden in their experiences. Also, now that many of us are working from home, the usual boundaries that separated work or school from our personal home lives don't exist. This can lead to more stress and finding it hard to unplug. It takes more intentional effort and thought to draw those boundaries for ourselves, and the cost of not doing this can be dire. Plus, Anthony talks about his love for "The Wire," the greatest television show ever made, and Erinn almost starts a fight trying to argue against this fact. A show from the early 2000's, "The Wire" was an in depth study of the characters and systems that made up the city of Baltimore. The show ties perfectly into a discussion of systems, and how systems fail, struggle to change, and can devastate the hopes of individual people. But there are also moments of triumph and evolution. As President Obama recently implored, we have to fight against the tide toward hopelessness, powerlessness and despair. That change is possible, and we can be part of it. We discuss a small example of how this process played out at CAPS. This message leads directly into our end segment "Just Stop It!," where we implore listeners to resist the urge to give up on change. Change is often slow and gradual, but as therapists we've seen it happen in individual lives and we know it is possible at the system level. But like with individuals, it takes a desire to change and a willingness to put in the hard work required.