Cale talks about a recent article in which the actress and comedia Kristen Wiig opens up about surrogacy and having children. What does the Catholic Church say about these methods of fertility? Also, Cale’s wife calls in and shares their journey of suffering through miscarriage.

Caller, Devin, shares his and his wife’s struggles with fertility, too, and roadblocks with adoption.

Church document mentioned on the show (link below):

INSTRUCTION ON RESPECT FOR HUMAN LIFE IN ITS ORIGIN

AND ON THE DIGNITY OF PROCREATION

REPLIES TO CERTAIN QUESTIONS OF THE DAY

 https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19870222_respect-for-human-life_en.html