Fierce Conversations with Toby

Content warning:

This episode discusses the healing journey of Moira Dadd after experiencing childhood abandonment, stays in multiple orphanages, and the death of her mother by suicide. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

“I kept saying no to my inner critic. No, no. Thank you. Thank you so much for taking care of me. I don't need you anymore.

I imagine tussling with them sometimes, but I'm a superhero now. No, no, no. Retire." 

- Moira Dadd, international bestselling author of the memoir Cherishing Me: Letters to a Motherless Child and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

In this episode, Moira and Toby embark on a profound conversation that touches on the delicate process of healing your inner child. Join us as we explore the power of forgiveness, both to others and to self, and how it has the potential to reshape your world and free you from the chains of the past. Moira's journey is an inspiring testament to the transformation that becomes possible when we confront our inner wounds and learn to forgive.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:05] Introduction and Guest Introduction

 [01:06] Favorite Color and its Significance

 [02:02] Crossroads and Seeking Help

 [03:26] Early Life in Foster Homes and Orphanage

 [06:26] Importance of the Grieving Process

 [15:50] Moving from Doing to Being

 [21:57] Reprogramming Negative Childhood Experiences and Embracing Ones Inner Child

 [24:27] Fear of Failure and Fear of Success

 [28:14] Embracing the Concept of "I Am Enough".

 [31:53] Writing a Healing Memoir

 [34:16] Gaining Gifts from Challenging Childhood Experiences

 [35:56] Conclusion and Encouragement for Personal Growth

About Moira Dadd

Moira and her husband, Graham, a retired ordained Minister in the United Reformed Church, enjoy a busy and fulfilling life on the south coast of England. She has been blessed with three sons, two stepdaughters, their wonderful spouses and ten gorgeous grandchildren. Having suffered a profoundly painful and traumatic childhood through losing her mother to suicide in infancy, she spent several years in an orphanage followed by ten years with her sister in an abusive family before making her own way in the world, which she has indeed accomplished with aplomb!

She is a trained Hypnotherapist and Master Practitioner of NLP and created a thriving private therapy practice which continues to this day. She gained her diploma in humanistic counselling in 2004, quickly followed by her certificate in education teaching diploma. She then embarked on her master’s degree in transpersonal arts and practice where she graduated with distinction in 2007. Her training continued in Sensorimotor Trauma Psychotherapy and Lifespan Integration. She has also been a volunteer facilitator of bereavement support groups for Cruse Bereavement for over ten years. Her therapeutic practices are beautifully complemented by her work as a funeral and wedding celebrant. She continues her journey of growth, healing, and service to others.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Moira Dadd:

Books and Audiobook

Website

Instagram

Facebook

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

"Sometimes you can be significant by being insignificant... 

We all have it within us to make a difference. You don't have to be wealthy. You don't have to be famous. You don't have to have a title." 

 - Toby Dorr, host of and the interviewee on today’s episode of Fierce Conversations with Toby

Special behind-the-scenes episode! Join Toby Dorr, host of Fierce Conversations with Toby, and Mark Packard, producer of Fierce Conversations with Toby, as they dive deep into the inspiring stories that make their podcast shine. Discover what drives their passions and ignites their guests' stories. Let's uncover the heart behind the mic!

Some of our fierce topics today:

[00:00] Introduction to Mark Packard

[01:02] Importance of Listener Perception in Podcast Production

[01:51] Role of Music and Sound Mixing in Podcasts

[02:07] Favorite Podcast Episodes

[07:09] Defining "Fierce Conversations"

[10:14] Book Discovery and Libraries

[19:39] Audio Books and Changing Preferences

[20:51] Embracing Risks and Playing It Safe

[21:29] Speaking Up and Advocacy

[24:15] Humanizing and Advocating for Prisoners

[30:56] The Power of Difficult Conversations

[43:01] Inspiring and Empowering Women

[48:10] Outro

About Mark Packard:

As the director and producer of Number Three Productions, Mark is intent on building procedures and techniques that transcend the confines of traditional distribution models. With a pioneering spirit, he leads the charge in creating a new creator economy of shared resources, forever reshaping our landscape. Mark is always looking for an opportunity to amplify voices and disrupt the world.

Recognized as a podcasting luminary, Mark has produced three captivating hiphop EPs, curated nine engaging podcasts, composed eight podcast theme songs, and brought nine enchanting audiobooks to life. His remarkable contributions have garnered acclaim, earning him consecutive nominations as Podcast Hero of the Year at the Publisher Podcast Awards, alongside esteemed creators from Marvel, Amazon, and Penguin Random House.

Links mentioned in this episode:

The Fierce Conversations Team

Mark Packard:

Number Three Productions Website

Podcasts mentioned (links are for the YouTube episodes): 

You Might Go to Prison with Justin Brooks

Doing Things That Scare You with Catherine Bell

Uncovering Grief's Beauty with Wendy Elle

The Art of Living and Loving with Kathryn C. Boxill

They Wanted Justice with Chris, Cliff, Charles, and Tim

"Off Leash", Toby's Interview on the "Criminal" podcast (audio podcast link)

Requesting books from your local library:

How to Request a Book at Your Local Library through Libby

How to Request a Book at Your Local Library through Hoopla (Click on "Title Requests")

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Embracing Resilience: Ali Freeman's Inspiring Journey of Healing Through Art

Content warning:

This episode discusses the healing journey of Ali Freeman after the miscarriage of her daughter Morrison, as well as discussions of the loss of Toby’s daughter, Emily. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

“I think it's just believing in yourself.

If something makes you feel good and makes you feel happy, then do it. 

Don't stop.”

 - Ali Freeman, inspirational artist and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby

Embracing the complexity of love and the hardships of loss, Ali Freeman's journey reveals the raw emotions life can bring. For her, the creek has become a sanctuary of happiness. Each cracked glass piece she discovers serves as a poignant reminder of Morrison, the daughter she lost through miscarriage. The jagged edges of the glass mirror the pain and the void left in her heart even before meeting her daughter face to face.

Yet, in the midst of brokenness, Ali's artistry weaves together these shattered fragments with other discarded pieces, giving birth to stunning creations. In the darkness, her art shines like a beacon of hope, illuminating the path to healing. A beautiful testament to resilience, these artworks become gentle reminders of the peace that overflows into joy, as the tapestry of life unfolds before our eyes.

Some of our fierce topics today:

• [00:00] Introduction by Toby Dorr. 
• [01:01] Toby asks Ali about her favorite color and what it says about her.
• [02:14] Ali shares her crossroads moment in 2017 when she experienced a miscarriage.
• [05:08] Ali talks about the difficulty and heartache of the miscarriage and how it led to a moment of introspection.
• [07:06] Toby and Ali discuss the emotional impact of miscarriage and the need for support from others who understand.
• [10:04] Toby talks about Ali's art and how it memorializes her daughter Morrison.
• [14:08] Toby asks Ali what she would tell other mothers experiencing miscarriage.
• [15:54] Ali describes the significance of working with broken glass and how it connects her with her daughter.
• [17:38] Toby shares her plan to use broken pottery pieces to create art, inspired by Ali's work.
• [19:49] Ali discusses her journey as an artist and the importance of believing in oneself.
• [22:26] Toby concludes the podcast.

About Ali Freeman

Hi, I'm Ali Freeman creator of Eclectic Ali Design.

I moved to Columbia, Missouri about 10 years ago. My husband and I began taking weekly walks along the local creeks. I quickly fell in love with the peacefulness the creeks offered. With each trip, I began to grow quite a collection of beautiful, raw creek glass - pieces that had laid untouched for many years. 

One day, I was shown a rock portrait in a magazine and I instantly became inspired to create portraits of my own with my unique creek treasures.

And thus...Eclectic Ali Design began. These handpicked pieces are lovingly designed into eclectic pieces of art.  The materials I use range from creek glass, rocks, driftwood, recycled tumbled glass, pottery, Polish pottery and other artistic mediums.

My promise is to add new life to the pieces that have been left behind. Hopefully my art will tell your story and bring happiness to your home.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Ali Freeman:

Website

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Sisterhood Behind Bars: The Unbreakable Bonds of Women in Prison

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

"Don't ever give up. Don't ever, ever, ever, give up.

I could not see a life this beautiful when I was dealing with the legal process or even when I was a young single mother... whatever hardship you may be going through, it holds the seeds to the beautiful future, to the best version of yourself." 

- Portia Louder, author of the memoir “Living Louder”, trauma and addiction mentor, public speaker, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

 [00:00] - Introduction to the podcast episode and guest, Portia Louder.

[00:59] - Discussion about Portia's favorite color and what it tells about her.

[1:58] - Crossroads in Portia's life that pushed her in a different direction: Portia's decision to change her life in prison and the empowerment she gained.

[03:47] - Avoiding pain and facing it, the importance of self-awareness and reflection.

[4:04] - Using time in prison productively and valuing personal growth.

[7:48] - The cost of keeping secrets and the power of openly admitting mistakes.

[11:32] - Portia's work in helping incarcerated women and writing content for prisons.

[14:56] - Moving past denial and embracing personal growth and change.

[17:31] Helping incarcerated individuals find their power and move past victimhood.

[19:56] - Evaluating life after prison and finding fulfillment in personal growth and experiences.

[22:54] - Discussing self-discovery and embracing one's true self.

[25:00] - Understanding self-forgiveness as a journey.

[26:02] - Examining the impact of mistakes on others and allowing them to express their pain.

[27:08] - Highlighting the sisterhood and camaraderie experienced in women's prison.

[30:54] - Addressing the challenges of reintegrating into society after prison.

[33:24] - Encouraging resilience and embracing the potential for a better future.

[34:27] Outro.

About Portia Louder:

Portia Louder photographed weddings for a while until an opportunity to flip real estate caught her attention. But then she somewhat naively committed mortgage fraud in 2011. Indicted, Portia spent four and a half years in federal prison. Today, she speaks openly about her mistakes and what it took to move past them. Portia gained a new perspective and currently teaches empowerment skills to at-risk youth, mentors women struggling with trauma and addiction, and writes and speaks about her experiences publicly. What a perfect trainwreck to discuss fiercely!

Portia’s memoir, Living Louder, A Compassionate Journey Through Federal Prison, is an account of compassion, faith and enduring friendships discovered in federal prison.

Links mentioned in this episode:

By clicking on the links here, we may earn some additional revenue that directly supports this podcast. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

Portia Louder:

Book

Website

LinkedIn

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

From Zoom Calls to Lifelong Bonds: Unleashing the Power of Connection

Watch the video interview here!

Transcripts available at https://tobydorr.com/podcast-schedule/

Content warning:

Mentioning and brief discussion of the death of one of our guest’s 5-year-old son. While this podcast is intended to facilitate healing and hold space for all, some listeners may be troubled by the subject matter.

“The six of us met when we were randomly assigned to an author pod, a space to encourage each other's writing journeys.

 We've never stopped.

It's been two years now, and we've created a community that lifts each other up, encourages, and holds us accountable for our goals.

But, more importantly, we've become sisters.”

­ - Toby Dorr, host, on the creation and evolution of the Author Pod “Woman, Rise!”

Join us on an extraordinary journey as six women tell the story of finding friendship, inspiration, and lasting bonds in a writing workshop. From virtual meetups to a getaway in Maine, their story is a testament to the transformative power of connection. Delve into the profound impact of their soul-binding support network and discover how these remarkable relationships can enrich your own life.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[0:00] Introduction and welcoming the Woman, Rise! Authors.

[1:00] Everyone’s favorite colors and what that says about them.

[7:53] The story of the start of the Author Pod (fiercely titled “Woman, Rise!”).

[9:43] What Leslie loves and finds special about all the authors in the Woman, Rise! Author Pod.

[13:27] Everyone’s thoughts from when they first started meeting and then what it's come to mean to them.

[26:06] A crossroads in the life of each member of the pod and how that pushed them in a different direction.

[43:46] Anything else from the Author Pod?

[58:54] Outro from Toby Dorr.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Leslie Ahmadi Website

Kathryn C. Boxill Website   

Wendy Elle Website

Marilynn James Website 

Lisa Plasse Website 

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

“Allow yourself to feel.

To grieve.

To mourn. Oftentimes with life, people wanna keep moving.

We have our responsibilities, but in the midst of that you should be comfortable to be able to

process those feelings and deal with how you're feeling and grieve in real time.”

 - Kathryn C. Boxill of BeDoLove, LLC, today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

[0:00] Intro.

[01:00] Kathryn’s favorite color, and why.

[02:50] The crossroads in Kathryn’s life that led her in a different direction.

[05:19] The importance of sisterhood, brotherhood, and a support network.

[06:39] How having a working and supporting partner holds you accountable.

[08:27] The myth and the legend of Pop (Kathryn’s father).

[10:10] How Pop dealt with his cancer diagnosis and the inspirational journey that followed.

[12:34] The beauty and significance of being there for a loved one during their final moments.

[17:13] How the caregiving experience changed Kathryn's life.

[21:22] Exploring ways to honor and appreciate those we have lost.

[24:37] You need to feel the emotions.

[26:38] How Kathryn moved through and with the hardship of losing Pop during Covid.

[29:44] How does Kathryn keep Pop involved in her life?

[33:19] A little bit more about Kathryn’s tagline "Be. Do. Love.”

[36:13] The importance of asking someone how they are truly doing.

[39:28] Outro.

 
About Kathryn C. Boxill

 Kathryn C. Boxill is an extraordinary being on a mission to inspire and contribute to the world through her unique journey of self-discovery. As a writer and blogger, she embraces her gift of expression and shares her inner spiritual thoughts, poetry, and culinary adventures with her audience. Her blog, "BeDoLove," is a testament to her commitment to living her life's purpose.

Driven by her thirst for learning and personal growth, Kathryn believes that life's ultimate purpose is to "Be" all that one can be, create joy and peace through meaningful actions, and spread unconditional love. She is passionate about empowering others to embrace love as the driving force in their lives, allowing them to experience fulfillment and genuine connection.

Kathryn's blog is a reflection of her open and adventurous spirit, as she explores new experiences and cherishes the beauty of the world we live in. With a belief in falling in love with life repeatedly, she encourages her readers to step out of their comfort zones and embrace the magic of living out their dreams and desires.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Kathryn C. Boxill:

Website

Instagram

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website 

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to

Check out the video of this interview here!

“I think that that's one of the overlooked traits that we have as an entire community is that we tend to not listen.

And I think that if we take time, take a minute to sit back and actually listen to what the community is asking for,

then we can better serve them.”

 - Frederick Johnson, therapist, barber, founder of DiverisfyU, and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby. 

Some of our fierce topics today: 

0:00 Intro

2:13 A switch from illegal activity on the streets to joining the military.

4:18 Serving historically excluded populations as a mental health therapist.

6:11 One word: discipline.

7:38 About DiversifyU.

8:53 Being a barber and a therapist at the same time.

10:40 Frederick’s creation of Fase Barber Initiative (FBI).

12:18 Soothing the anger in our communities by listening.

14:39 Working as a school-based therapist and the changes being made by Frederick’s work.

17:07 Frederick’s upcoming book, More Black People Should Be Eaten by Sharks.

19:34 How to help support DiversifyU and Frederick’s other endeavors.

22:04 Final thoughts and outro.

About Frederick Johnson:

Frederick Johnson is a therapist with 25 years of experience providing services for youth, families, veterans, and the unsheltered. He is also a combat veteran, having served in Operation Iraqi Freedom as a Supply Sergeant with his Army Ranger Unit. Throughout his career, Fred has always been drawn to create innovative methods and programs focused on serving historically excluded and low SES populations. DiverisfyU is a capacity-building firm specializing in program development and culturally sensitive curriculum encouraging out-of-the-box thinking and creative alternatives. It also provides timely and affordable school counseling services to students in need, with the goal of increasing academics, mental health, and the overall well-being of the students. Additionally, Fred currently works as a school-based therapist, providing intensive services and teaching social-emotional learning (SEL) classes.

Born and raised in Chicago, Fred attended high school and college in Iowa. A linebacker for the 1995 RC Cola Bowl National Junior College Championship, he was inducted to the Iowa Lakes Hall of Fame in 2015. He holds a Bachelor of Arts in Public Administration and a Master of Public Administration (MPA) with an emphasis on nonprofit management from Upper Iowa University. Post military, he moved to Kansas City with his wife Hanna and two children, Darian and Marion, and completed his Master of Arts (MA) in Counseling from Midwestern Baptist Seminary. In his free time, you may find Fred cutting hair in his barbershop, bowling in national tournaments, crafting the perfect jerk salmon in his smoker, and writing his first book, More Black People Should Be Eaten by Sharks.  

Links mentioned in this episode:

Frederick Johnson:

Website

Facebook

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube<

Check out the video of this interview here!

“Your perspective is a superpower that you have in your pocket at all times.

And it doesn't matter what level of situation you're in, whatever you can control or what you can't control around you, whether you like it or you don't, that perspective is the one thing that's pretty unchanging,

so long as you're aware of it.”

 - Carly Fahey-Dima, Communication Manager, Culture Manager, and CFO (Chief Fun Officer) of GracePoint Publishing and today’s guest on Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Some of our fierce topics today:

0:00 Intro

1:30 The crossroad in Carly’s life that pushed her to make a difficult decision.

2:53 Life is about going through these difficult things and coming out on the other side.

3:20 Carly’s crazy story about being wrongfully arrested at 15.

7:30 What kept Carly going through this turbulent time.

8:25 Perspective is our superpower.

9:33 A different decision in juvenile hall.

14:30 After Carly went home.

19:20 The verdict.

25:36 Carly reclaiming herself.

26:55 Final thoughts and outro.

About Carly Fahey-Dima

Carly is a lifelong lover of words, writing, and storytelling. Having graduated with her bachelor’s degree in Creative Writing and a minor in Sociology, Carly fell in love with combining her passion for writing with her love for understanding people. Carly is responsible for many of the communications authors and clients receive from GracePoint and prides herself in being someone they can come to to get the answers they need. In addition to her communications responsibilities, Carly has been appointed as the “Manager of Fun” for GracePoint and always likes to find a way to get the team to celebrate a random national holiday or gather for some trivia. When she isn’t at work doing the job she loves she is hiking, cooking soup, crocheting, training for her next half marathon, playing video games with her boyfriend Wilson, or snuggling with her fur babies, Aldo and Soup.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Carly Fahey-Dima:

Sign up for the weekly GracePoint Publishing newsletter, written by Carly, to dive more into her creative musings.

Sign up for the weekly GracePoint Publishing newsletter, written by Carly, to see more into her creative musings.

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Check out the video of this interview here!

“I kept going at it and the best thing of it all is that my band director said to me, you know what?

I see the determination.

You can't give up.”

 - Lisa Plasse, composer of The Fierce Conversations with Toby theme song and today’s guest, on her first experience with the flute – which took Lisa 7 months of practicing to even create a sound.

Make sure to listen and watch to the end where Lisa does a live flute performance during the outro to today’s episode!

Some of our fierce topics today:

00:00 Intro

03:37 Not giving up and not walking away from something that's challenging.

05:53 Journaling and the therapy the process gives.

07:45 The process for creating the theme song for Fierce Conversations with Toby.

10:42 The part of music that fills Lisa’s soul the most.

31:21 Lisa plays the flute part of the theme song for Fierce Conversations with Toby during the outro.

Lisa Plasse is the owner, director, and flute and voice teacher of From the Top Music Studio in Midland Park, NJ, which offers instrumental and vocal lessons. In addition to her work at From the Top, she is also an applied vocal lessons instructor at Columbia University and has produced and directed many musicals, theater workshops, and concert performances.

Links mentioned in this episode:

Lisa Plasse:

Lisa Plasse Website

From the Top Music Studio

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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Check out the video of this interview here!

“If a movie was made about your life, who would play the lead role?” 
This classic conversation-starter question was actually answered for Toby Dorr! For Toby, the face of the lead role was Catherine Bell when she played Toby in the Lifetime movie Jailbreak Lovers. Since Jailbreak Lovers was created from public news stories and without consultation from Toby, the cast was not allowed to speak with Toby during the filming and production. Join Toby and Catherine as they talk about what it felt like for Toby to have someone showcase the story of the biggest turning point in her life in a movie… and not have any control over what was said. See the time stamps below for other topics covered in today’s interview! 

Catherine Bell is an actress and a model and has starred in multiple films and TV shows including The Good Witch, JAG, Army Wives, Bruce Almighty, and Lifetime’s Jailbreak Lovers (Toby’s story). In addition to Catherine’s screen career, she is also the co-founder of EVR Beauty and a supervisor with Criminon, "an international, non-profit organization dedicated to criminal rehabilitation and reform."

Links mentioned in this episode:

As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases. Thank you for supporting Fierce Conversations with Toby through your purchases of what we feature on the podcast!

Catherine Bell:

Criminon

EVR Beauty Retinol and Collagen Cream

EVR Beauty Website
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Toby Dorr:

Books and Audiobook

Website  

Patreon

YouTube

Instagram

Facebook

Or head to https://linktr.ee/fierceconversations for all things Fierce Conversations with Toby.

Credits:

Created by Toby Dorr.

Produced by Number Three Productions, a division of GracePoint Publishing.

Theme song:

Lisa Plasse: Composer, arranger, and flutist

Caroline Parody: Piano

Tony Ventura: Bass

For more information on these fabulous musicians, please go to https://tobydorr.com/theme-song/

Timestamps

(0:00-1:44) Introduction and welcoming Catherine Bell.

(1:44-3:13) Catherine, you’re a firm believer in doing things that scare you. What’s the scariest thing you’ve ever done and would you do it again?

(3:13-5:28) A bit about Criminon, the non-profit organization Catherine does work for.  

(5:28-6:22) What Catherine ponders when considering new roles.

(6:22-7:52) Catherine’s approach to the personas she portrays when acting.

(7:52-11:02) The way Catherine figured out how to play Toby in Jailbreak Lovers without ever getting to talk to Toby and how Toby felt Catherine portrayed her in the movie.

(11:02-12:12) What Catherine has learned about Toby after playing her and Toby’s most cringey moment when watching the movie with her family.

(12:12-12:48) Catherine is known for portraying strong women. Are there any roles she hasn’t played yet that she would like to? 

(12:48-14:55) Toby shares stories about fierce women who are not talked about or as well-known but should be.

(14:55-17:11) Catherine and EVR Beauty.

(17:11-18:38) Catherine’s life lesson that has carried her through the hard times.

(18:38-19:40) Catherine saying Fierce Conversations with Toby in Farsi.

(19:40-21:50) Wrapping up, thank you to Catherine, and outro.