Today Perry and Shawna have a conversation about how we can find and grab hold of hope and share it!  First Shawna shares how her natural tendency is to stuff her feelings.  But she’s learning to open those feelings to God and to find hope from Him and then to speak His hope to her anxious soul.  Then Perry and Shawna respond to a listener’s question:  Is Covid 19 a judgment from God?  The answer they unpackage from Romans 8 is that it’s actually creation’s birth pains!  Finally we get really practical and share ways we can be people who bring hope into hearts that are gasping for it right now!