🎙️ Finding Joy in a Divided World – with Joe Caruso

In this new episode of LovePastors, Gary meets up with Joe Caruso from Grace Church’s Bath Campus at The Brew Kettle inside the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio. Over coffee and laughter, they explore what it means for pastors to pursue joy in ministry—even when culture feels loud, divided, and reactionary.

Gary and Joe share personal stories about encouragement, the friendships that keep them steady, and why every shepherd needs a place where they can breathe, recharge, and be reminded of God’s goodness. They also tackle a timely topic: how public reactions to the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk expose the wide spectrum of political and racial perspectives, and how social-media algorithms can intensify those divides.

Their conversation invites pastors, leaders, and anyone who loves the church to step back from the noise, rediscover the joy of the calling, and intentionally create communities that lift each other up. Whether you’re navigating a heavy season or simply want to cultivate a deeper well of encouragement, this episode is an energizing reminder that hope is still possible—and joy is worth fighting for.