50 Fires: Money and Meaning with Carl Richards

Finding Your Own Definition of Wealth with Katie Gatti Tassin


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Katie Gatti Tassin, the creator of the Money with Katie Podcast, joins Carl to explore the personal and philosophical sides of money. Katie shares her journey from launching a personal finance blog to selling it to Morning Brew, and how that experience reshaped her views on wealth, work, and independence.


Together, they dive into Katie’s early memories of money, the financial habits instilled by her parents, and the emotional weight of financial decisions—like buying a luxury car and the conflicted feelings that followed. She opens up about her evolving perspective on financial success, the tension between abundance and scarcity mindsets, and the reality of scaling up lifestyle expenses while maintaining financial security.


Carl and Katie also tackle systemic economic issues, including the illusion of meritocracy, and how shifting personal and societal financial narratives could lead to a more equitable future.

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For more on Katie visit https://moneywithkatie.com/ 

Pre-Order her new book Rich Girl Nation: https://moneywithkatie.com/rich-girl-nation


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