Whether it's a home renovation project, a presentation for work, a piece of writing or an actual race you need to train for, the thought of the finishing line can be the ultimate motivator to get you started.

We chat with charming and witty, American author, illustrator, film-maker and ultra-runner Brendan Leonard about how he motivates himself to get going on various projects. Through his stories of physical adventure and creative endeavours we explore the different ways in which a definitive end-point to something (and sometimes a fear of it) can serve as the biggest kick.

In this discussion we reference:

• Brendan's latest book; Ultra Something
• Brendan's book on the journey of creative expression; Make It - 50 Myths and Truths about Creating
• Brendan's book on running; I Hate Running and You Can Too
• Brendan's film (and look out for the bit at the Finish Line that Brendan references in the podcast); How to Run 100 miles

Jono references his sketch on Forcing Function

We'd love to hear your stories of any experience with Finishing Lines. How much of a motivator are they for you? 

Ping us an email to: [email protected] or leave us a voice note when you click the blue microphone button on the website.

All Music on this podcast series is provided by Franc Cinelli. Find many more tracks at franccinelli.com

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