We embrace our hybridity, stare down Lovecraftian Donkey-Dragon hybrids, and enter into true Dialogos.

Supplementary Material 25

01:06 DTG Grievance Mongering

02:25 Book Club Reflections

04:09 Important Health and Lifestyle Updates

09:51 Andrew Huberman's Trail of Death

17:14 Jeff Bezos and Media Control

25:04 Another exciting round of Lab Leak Discourse!

31:17 Scientific Evidence vs. Public Discourse

38:28 Matt and Chris' Respectful Debate

44:05 Rewriting of Covid History

47:04 Conspiracies and Political Pressure

50:40 Eric Weinstein is STILL Waiting for the Call

59:41 Pageau considers the Lovecraftian Horrors of Sesame Street

01:07:17 Sarah Haider (Re)Invents 'Pioneer Traditionalism'

01:11:36 Chris Williamson's annual pilgrimage to the Khan

01:12:37 Fact Checking Bullshit with Eric Weinstein

01:17:16 Breathless Reactions to New Pyramid Theories

01:22:59 Credulity Checking with Matt's Son

01:24:40 Cruel Racist Attacks on Poor Graham Hancock from the Devil Flint Dibble

01:31:44 The Insane Hypocrisy of Alternative Media: Corrupt Academics are being controlled!

01:37:21 Soaring Rhetoric, Petty Tribalism, and Obvious Hypocrisy

01:39:19 No Charity for evil Flint Dibble

01:43:35 Outro

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Sources

• New York Times- Zeynep Tufekci: We Were Badly Misled About the Event That Changed Our Lives
• Kristian Andersen's BluSky thread about the article
• Kristian Andersen's article about the emails/slack messages, etc.
• Huberman's lamentations for his dead friends
• The Rubin Report: Analyzing Trump’s Tactics | Eric Weinstein
• Joe Rogan Experience #2293 - Chris Williamson
• Flint Dibble: Megastructures under Giza Pyramids⁉️ ARCHAEOLOGY REWRITTEN or viral 💩?
• Daily Express- Netflix Ancient Apocalypse: Graham Hancock slams neo-nazis using work to spread race hate
• The last time we said the same thing about the Lab Leak
• Chris doing a Dyno! and a little bonus

In this very special episode, Matt and Chris, despite swearing off any further Dr. K content after their previous three-part series, find themselves bleary-eyed and once again tumbling into the familiar depths of the K-Hole.

Yes, they’re back with Dr. K, everyone’s favourite enlightened Twitch non-therapy therapist, now emerging from a self-declared midlife crisis with some powerful new revelations. Chief among them: while enlightenment may not technically be for sale, you can certainly pay to “level up your propensity for it.”

After years of humble-bragging about undercharging for his mental health guides, Dr. K has boldly pivoted to defending high-priced spiritual initiations. If you thought enlightenment involved effort, introspection, and maybe a bit of humility, think again—it turns out you can outsource your spiritual growth to a guru, who will do the grinding for you. Great news for Elon Musk.

Join Matt and Chris as they machete their way through a jungle of surreal analogies—landscaping contracts, parental down payments, Bluetooth enlightenment, and monetised spiritual energy transfer—all in service of a worldview where the real obstacle to self-actualisation is your reluctance to wire $10,000 to a spiritually enriched craftsman for a golden amulet.

So fill up your chakras, empty your critical thinking cup, and enjoy this trip through the mystic marketplace—where your spiritual awakening is just one overpriced relic away.

Links

• Squeex: Indian Hate on the Internet (A Discussion w/ Dr. K)
• DTG- Dr. K (Part 1): OPed Ayurvedic Medicine vs. Nerfed 'Western' Allopathy
• DTG- Dr. K (Part 2): Rhetorical Judo Flips
• DTG- Dr. K (Part 3): Therapeutic Non-Therapy

In the wake of our Naomi Klein episode, the masses have spoken. And like the responsible Gurometricians that we are, we've taken your feedback to heart and thus open this episode with a series of scientific and spiritual recitations. Then it's straight back into the sweet science—and mystical art—of Gurometry, as we test how well it measures up to Naomi Klein’s anti-capitalist spirit. Fun for the whole family!

P.S. Don't worry—Chris Langan’s Gurometer has not been forgotten and will be arriving very soon!

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Gurometer: Naomi Klein

00:00 Introduction

01:29 Sponsor Shoutouts!

03:29 Naomi Klein Feedback

05:03 Podcast Format Limitations and Reading the Book!

11:37 Consistency in Standards of Evaluation

20:21 Evaluating the Arguments Independent of the Conclusions

24:53 The Importance of Disconfirming Evidence

26:28 Differing Definitions Cross-Culturally

29:36 The Gurometer

29:59 Galaxy Brainness

32:03 Cultishness

34:02 Anti-Establishmentarianism

38:12 Grievance Mongering

38:55 Self-Aggrandizement

41:29 Cassandra Complex

44:06 Revolutionary Theories

46:53 Pseudo Profound Bullshit

49:25 Conspiracy Mongering

53:57 Excessive Profiteering

54:48 Moral Grandstanding

56:04 Final Scores and Reflections

58:52 Quickfire Guru Bonus Points

In this episode, your favourite neoliberal Decoder shills take a break from managing the decline of late-stage capitalism to examine the insights of famed writer and renegade activist Naomi Klein. The focus is her latest literary offering, Doppelganger, where Klein wrestles with the existential dread of being confused with Naomi Wolf and uses that mix-up as a gateway to explore the "Mirror World" of conspiracy theories and online gurus (a landscape our listeners know all too well).

Along the way, Matt and Chris discover Klein's views on Steve Bannon's dubious charm (and what percentage he gets right), the cause of Russell Brand's descent, the real agenda behind conspiracy theories, and why neoliberal capitalism remains the root of all evil. Plus, special guest interviewer Ryan Grim parachutes to 'just ask questions' about the lab leak, vaccine side effects and other forbidden topics that the people were not allowed to talk about!

So, whether you’re a champagne socialist, a crypto libertarian, a neoliberal shill, or just here for the popcorn, join Matt and Chris as they parse Klein’s content and consider: is Klein speaking truth to power, or just preaching to the choir?

Sources

• Penguin Books: How did conspiracy theories become mainstream? | Naomi Klein | Big Questions
• Naomi Klein. Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World.
• Politics and Prose. Naomi Klein — Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World - with Ryan Grim
• THIS- The Rebel Sell: If we all hate consumerism, how come we can’t stop shopping?
• Ryan McBeth: Exposing the Military Industrial Complex

In this special quasi-crossover episode, we stare deeply into the abyss while enjoying a beverage with renowned psychologist and occasional podcast co-host, Mickey Inzlicht.

P.S. The Decoding of Naomi Klein is coming next week!

Two Psychologists, One Anthropologist, Three Beers

00:27 Introduction

05:57 Mickey's Sabbatical in Japan

12:13 Sensemaking 3.0

25:25 Francis Foster's Bizarre Podcast Roast

34:38 Sabine Hossenfelder thinks Academia is Communism

36:11 The Irony of YouTube Incentives

39:34 Proper Criticisms of Academia

43:28 Is Academia Centrally Planned?

46:24 Culture War Pandering

53:53 Entering the Matt-rix

55:00 In Bed with the Russians notices the Red Scare Wounded Bird Pose

01:00:03 On the etiquette of Replications

01:06:17 Academic Debates on the Effect of Culture on Visual Illusions: Joe Henrich vs. Amir & Firestone

01:11:18 The Legend of Captain Cook: Sahlins vs Obeyesekere

01:12:58 Ideas vs People: Sarah Haider, Colin Wright and an epidemic of hypocrisy

01:17:19 Admitting Mistakes and Research Integrity

01:24:38 Interpersonal Relationships vs. Adversarial Systems

01:33:24 Wastage in Academia

01:39:49 Elon Musk, Pregnancy, and Modern Cults

01:49:01 Signing Off

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Sources

• Mickey's Substack: Speak Now, Regret Later
• Inzlicht, M., Cameron, C. D., D’Cruz, J., & Bloom, P. (2024). In praise of empathic AI. Trends in Cognitive Sciences, 28(2), 89-91.Chicago. And a summary article by Mickey!
• Bad Boys Done Good vs Triggernometry host Francis Foster
• Sabine Hossenfelder - Should we defund academia?
• Alexander Beiner - From Rebel Wisdom to Kainos
• Joe Henrich's thread responding to the Dorsa and Chaz paper
• Chris' old blog on Captain Cook and the second part
• Amir, D., & Firestone, C. (2025, January 25). Is visual perception WEIRD? The Müller-Lyer illusion and the Cultural Byproduct Hypothesis. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/y7mtf
• In Bed with the Russians - Red Scared

Chris and Matt confront their inner demons, manifest their personal deities, and dive into the Onto-Logos.

Supplementary Material 24

00:00 Introduction

02:32 Matt's Surprise Shaming

06:39 Jordan Peterson's Inner Monologue Revealed

10:04 Trump on Ukraine

15:22 Sean Carroll explains US cuts to science funding

16:47 Bleak Prospects for the US

24:14 Aella vs. Arrogant Red Pill Man

37:22 Be wary of Overcorrecting

43:11 John Vervaeke meets Hermes

52:59 False Dichotomies of the Spirit

01:03:38 Entering into Dialogos with Matt's Inner Darwin

01:07:39  Perspectival and participatory phenomenological identity transformation.

01:09:20 Other ways of knowing spirits

01:13:45 Materialists and their Monological Mindsets

01:18:37 Welcome to the Onto-Logos

01:24:06 Bad Faith Commenters

01:29:35 Pageau and the Metaphysics of Pepe the Frog

01:36:32 Next Book Review: Other Minds

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Sources

• Third Eye Drops: Encountering Higher Consciousness, The Daimon & The Paradox of Reality | Dr. John Vervaeke
• Dave Rubin's video of Peterson's speech at the ARC conference
• Whatever podcast: She Did 100 Men In 1 DAY?! 1,000 NEXT?! Lily Phillips, Eva Lovia, Aella, Andrew! | Dating Talk#227
• Aella's Substack
• Sean Carroll: Bonus Episode | Cuts to Science Funding and Why They Matter
• Sabine Hossenfelder: Trump and Musk Take On Academia
• Huberman tweeting excitedly about the funding cuts
• Jonathan Pageau: Supplement to the Metaphysics of Pepe Interview with Jordan Peterson

Chris and Matt have their models exploded, the maps ripped up, and their minds blown as the Gurusphere expands into exciting new territory.

Supplementary Material 23

02:47 Chris Williamson blows our minds!

08:57 Content Predator psychology and motivational posting

12:28 Balancing the Scales

14:07 Eric Weinstein the master of Rorschach Tweets

20:26 Modern Sages Reunited: Bret Weinstein and Joe Rogan

24:29 Open-Minded Joe Rogan

34:26 Maybe prescriptions are actually bad!

37:38 Andrew Gold expands into Race & IQ

46:47 4 Warning Signs of Radicalism

56:45 Monomaniacal Fixation vs. Pluralism

01:05:26 Rejoinder: What if it is a diagnostic?

01:09:43 Lex wants to join DOGE

01:10:31 Lex's next world leader interview: Modi

01:14:57 Matt's Final Thought: People contain multitudes

01:16:57 Outro

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Sources

• Eric Weinstein's profound tweet on history as we know it
• The Joe Rogan Experience#2269- Bret Weinstein
• Andrew Gold Heretics: CONTROVERSIAL: Are Some Races DUMBER? - Nathan Cofnas (4K)
• Lex wistfully imagines joining DOGE and thinks deeply about his upcoming interview with Modi
• Recent investigation of 'Race Realist' networks and outlets
• Kruglanski, A. W., & Moskalenko, S. (2025). Psychology of the Extreme. Taylor & Francis.

In this episode, Matt finally gets his revenge on Chris by dragging him deep into the eccentric world of Chris Langan—the self-proclaimed possessor of a 200 IQ and creator of The Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe, yet another grand unifying theory of everything. Langan presents himself as an intellectual titan, offering mathematical, social, religious, and philosophical insights so profound that mere mortals can barely grasp them.

Prepare to have the mysteries of the universe, God, anti-God, angels, and demons unveiled. Consciousness, determinism, and free will? All finally explained. But that’s not all—somehow, it all connects to globalist plots, election conspiracies, vaccines, UFOs, and, of course, the devil pulling the strings.

Join us for conservative pundit Michael Knowles’ therapy session with one of his idols-a man who reassures him that he is a very smart boy and that his fundamentalist Christian beliefs are, in fact, completely correct.

If you thought Eric Weinstein was something, imagine him cranked up to 12. That’s Chris Langan...

Also... get ready for Matt's double down on his Aussie food takes.

Links

• CTMU Radio: Chris Langan - The Interview THEY Didn't Want You To See
• Malcolm Gladwell interview discussing Chris Langan
• Good Reddit post on the problems of the MEGA IQ test

In this episode, Matt and Chris take a look at a recent developmental psychology paper on the social evaluation of young babies. Do they display a preference for agents who are nice to others or could they care less at the babbling age? This is a large-scale, multi-lab, preregistered replication effort of a rather influential paper so it ticks all of Chris' Open Science boxes, but how does Matt react? Is he stuck in his pre-replication crisis paradigms? Join us to find out and along the way find out about baby Matt's psychotic tendencies, how cats feel about cucumbers, and how Matt narrowly escaped being eaten by a big ol' crocodile.

Paper Reference: Lucca, K., Yuen, F., Wang, Y., Alessandroni, N., Allison, O., Alvarez, M., ... & Hamlin, J. K. (2025). Infants’ Social Evaluation of Helpers and Hinderers: A Large‐Scale, Multi‐Lab, Coordinated Replication Study. Developmental Science, 28(1), e13581.

Original Study: Hamlin, J. K., Wynn, K., & Bloom, P. (2007). Social evaluation by preverbal infants. Nature, 450(7169), 557-559.

Decoding Academia 32

00:00 Introduction

00:59 Matt's Close Shave with a Crocodile

03:15 Discussion on Crocodile Behavior

05:13 Introduction to the Academic Paper

06:18 Understanding Registered Reports

07:49 Details of the Replication Study

12:07 The Many Babies Study

18:23 Challenges in Developmental Psychology

20:35 Original Study and Replication Efforts

26:27 HARKing and the QRP problem in psychology

34:24 Discussing the Results

36:58 Exploring the Red Ball Experiment

39:38 Forest Plot Analysis

41:19 Infant Preferences and Social Evaluation

43:24 Failure to Replicate the Original Study

47:06 Exploratory Analysis and Moderators

50:03 Interpretations and Implications

54:21 Evolutionary Perspectives on Social Behavior

58:34 Prosocial Evolutionary Speculation

01:05:10 Psychopathic Baby Matt

01:06:28 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

01:11:20 Comparative Psychology on Snake Hatred!

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We immerse ourselves in the Dark Side of the Gurusphere and come out forever altered by what we've seen and praying for an escape from this demon-haunted world.

00:00 Introduction

01:38 Reverse Culture Shock in Australia

11:01 Tim Tams and Food Progress

12:14 Russia Today endorses Lex's statements on Zelensky

19:20 Elon Musk's Controversial Gesture

38:31 Destiny's (Most Recent) Controversy

01:02:12 Bryan Johnson vs. Andrew Huberman: Civility Insights

01:14:21 Sacriligeous Sycophancy: Bill Ackman and Sam Altman

01:15:55 Jonathan Pageau's Stargate Theories

01:26:52 Escaping the Demon-Haunted World

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Sources

• Russia Today tweeting about Lex and announcing his upcoming interview with Putin
• Joe Rogan Experience #2260 - Lex Fridman
• Video comparing Musk's gesture with other politicians' gestures
• Pxie's statement about the lawsuit on her substack and Destiny's response on his subreddit
• Bryan Johnson and Huberman's Twitter Exchange
• Bill Ackman suggesting Trump's achievements are greater than God's
• Jonathan Pageau's thread on Stargates