Grégoire Michaud大廚：Bakehouse 及 Bread Elements 創辦人、前香港四季酒店行政糕點總廚、都柏林四季餐飲部副理、馬爾代夫四季及香港麗晶酒店糕點師、EHL 洛桑酒店管理商學院校友、瑞士出生烘培大師，15 歲開始接受烘焙訓練

Chef Grégoire Michaud: Founder of Bakehouse & Bread Elements, ex-Four Seasons HK Executive Pastry Chef, Dublin Assistant F&B Manager, Pastry Chef at Four Seasons Maldives & Regent HK, EHL Hospitality Business School alum, Switzerland-born, trained in baking since 15

Interviewer: Wendy Chong Pui Wan

採訪者：蔣沛芸

秦嗣林先生：「台灣當鋪第一狀元」、台灣典當業領軍人物、大千典精品首席執行長、鑑價專家、綜藝節目達人、前台北市當舖商業同業公會理事長、暢銷作者 -《29張當票 1-3》、 《那個年代 這些惦記》、《學上當》、 台灣大學商學碩士、復旦大學工商管理碩士

Mr. Stone Chin: Taiwan Pawnshop Industry Leader, Depawn Shop CEO, Appraisal Expert & Variety Show Personality, Taipei Pawnshop Association ex-Chairman, Bestselling Author of “29 Pawn Tickets,” “Those Years, These Memories,” and “Learning from Mistakes,” National Taiwan University & Fudan MBA

Interviewer: Wendy Chong Pui Wan

採訪者：蔣沛芸

Dr. Bernard Charnwut Chan: Chair of Asia Financial Holdings & Asia Insurance, M+ Museum & Tai Kwun Chair, West Kowloon Executive Committee Chair, Our Hong Kong Foundation Chair, ex-HK Palace Museum Chair, Former Executive Council Non-Official Convenor, HK Jockey Club Steward, HK–Thailand Business Council Chair, Bangkok Bank (China) Advisor, HK Council of Social Service Chair, ex-Lingnan University Chair & Honorary Doctor, Pomona College Graduate & Trustee Emeritus; Justice of the Peace, Grand Bauhinia Medal & Gold Bauhinia Star recipient

陳智思博士：亞洲金融集團及亞洲保險主席、M+博物館與大館文化藝術公司主席、西九文化區行政委員會主席、團結香港基金會主席、香港故宮博物院前主席、前行政會議非官守召集人、香港賽馬會董事、港泰商會主席、曼谷銀行（中國）顧問、香港社會服務聯會主席、嶺南大學前主席及榮譽博士、美國Pomona College榮譽畢業生及榮譽校董；太平紳士、大紫荊勳章及金紫荊星章得主

Interviewer: Wendy Chong Pui Wan

採訪者：蔣沛芸

62 Mr. Chiang Lim-che: Chinese Antique Furniture Collector, Pioneer & Connoisseur, China Art Group Chairman, Chinese Woodwork & Furniture Research Society Vice-Chair, Guangdong Museum Academic Advisor, Curator & Jury Member of Classical Furniture Exhibitions Guangzhou Antique Trade Association Advisor, Boya Society President, HK Art Merchants Association Council Member, Antiquities Educator

蔣念慈先生：著名中國古董家具鑑藏家、香港「華藝大榮」董事長、中國木作及家具研究會副主席、廣東省博物館學術顧問、廣州古玩行業商會及顧問、博雅學社社長、香港藝術品商會理事、古典家具展覽策展人與評委、古董教育推廣者

Interviewer: Wendy Chong Pui Wan

採訪者：蔣沛芸

Dr. Allan Zeman: “Father of Lan Kwai Fong,” Founder & Chairman of Lan Kwai Fong Group, Wynn Macau Chair, ex-Ocean Park Chairman, Founder & Director of Paradise Properties, Advisor to HKSAR Chief Executive Council, HK Tourism Board, Airport Authority, West Kowloon Cultural District Authority Board Member, Star Ferry Company Chairman, Board Director at Alibaba Entrepreneurs Fund, TVB, Fosun Tourism, and Sino Land; Justice of the Peace, Grand Bauhinia Medal & Gold Bauhinia Star recipient

盛智文博士：蘭桂坊之父、蘭桂坊集團創辦人及主席、永利澳門董事會主席、香港海洋公園前主席、Paradise Properties Group創辦人及主席、旅遊發展局、機場管理局、西九文化管理局董事、特首顧問委員會成員、阿里巴巴創業基金、無綫電視、複星旅遊及信和置業董事；太平紳士、大紫荊勳章及金紫荊星章得主

Interviewer: Wendy Chong Pui Wan

採訪者：蔣沛芸

Mr. Kenny Lam: Two Sigma APAC CEO, ex-McKinsey Global Partner, UPenn Wharton School Finance Alumni & Asia Executive Board Chairman, Oxford Law Graduate, Author of “Choices,” Project Melo Co-Founder, SmarTone & Bank of East Asia Independent Board Member

林國灃先生: Two Sigma 亞洲首席執行官、麥肯錫前全球高級合夥人、數碼通及東亞銀行中國獨立董事、美國賓夕法尼亞大學沃頓商學院校友、牛津大學法律校友、𣈱銷書《選擇》作者、Project Melo 聯合創辦人

Interviewers: Wendy Chong, Victor Hui

採訪者: 蔣沛芸、許業燊

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Wendy Chong: Hi everyone. Thank you so much for coming.

那我從廣東話開始先。很感謝您這麼快接受了我們的採訪，和您在Melo群組中分享很多例如馮唐有關的書，幫助我們從另一個角度思考人生。現在疫情和科技改變下，很多年輕人都感到迷茫、困惑，您寫的《選擇》一書能幫助我們做很多不同的抉擇。

Kenny Lam: Thank you. Yeah, sure, It sounded like you were pitching my book. I don't know how you got access to it. I didn't authorize the books to be sold in the US. I only authorized them to be sold in China, where it became quite popular. I didn't want it to be too high profile, so I’m glad you were able to read it or get access to it.

Wendy Chong: I got access online. There's a WeChat online book platform where you pay a small fee and get access. It's super convenient. For a physical copy, I'll have to wait until I’m back in China or Hong Kong.

Kenny Lam: Oh, if you guys are interested, I can send you physical copies. Just message me if you want one. I’m happy to, because there's a story behind the book, which links to your question. When I left Noah, they suggested I write a book about my unique journey. I was born and raised in Hong Kong, so my Chinese is only half-baked, and I couldn't write a book in Chinese. I can speak Mandarin and run a company in China, but not write a book. But Jing, the largest publisher in China, convinced me they could do a good job and assigned an editor. They were passionate and said I should share my experience in the first person. I initially refused, suggesting interviews instead, but they thought it would be more authentic to share my journey directly. So I agreed, and it took me two years, spending weekends writing about 160,000 words. The editor corrected about 30% of it, mostly my Chinese. Writing a book felt out of my comfort zone, but it wasn't a completely crazy risk. As I mentioned in my book, people often say to take risks and step outside your comfort zone, but it’s important to be strategic and thoughtful. Otherwise, you're exposed and not really considering the risks. I started in Hong Kong, then went to Canada for high school, like many Hong Kong kids. After that, I went to college in the US and the UK. I wanted to do something different from my classmates, who were all going into investment banking, so I decided to study law. It wasn't drastically different, but for someone with a finance background, doing a law degree was unique. As you may know, I was a lawyer in the US for three years. That's when I started to see the first big trend. In the book, I talk about reading macro trends to understand where things are going, so you can make informed decisions. Back then, the big trend was Chinese state-owned companies listing in the US. I became a corporate attorney, helping these companies list on the New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ. It was my first experience learning how to structure deals in a tough environment. After that, when I was 24 or 25, I saw the dot-com boom and decided to try something new. In your twenties, the opportunity cost isn't that high. So I created a website called Ice Red. You guys are probably too young to remember it, but many people in my generation have heard of it. My wife says I was ahead of my time...

Due to word limit, see full transcript (English Original & Chinese Translation) at: https://bit.ly/echohk60transcript

Erik Akutagawa: Visual Effects/Tech Executive, Former CPO at Consortium9, Senior Manager at Sony Funimation, Senior Program Manager at Ticketmaster, NFL Digital Product Operations Manager, COO of Baja Missions, Career Coach & Mentor, UCLA Mechanical Engineering alum, led VFX teams that won 5 Oscars/Academy Awards (notable projects: Life of Pi, The Golden Compass, Snow White and the Huntsman)

Erik Akutagawa先生: 前 Consortium9 首席產品官（CPO）、索尼資深經理、Ticketmaster 資深計畫經理、美式足球聯盟（NFL）數字產品運營經理、Baja Missions 首席運營官、職場專業生涯教練、加州大學洛杉磯分校機械工程校友，曾領導電影特效團隊獲得五次奧斯卡獎（代表作：《少年 Pi 的奇幻漂流》、《黃金羅盤》、《白雪公主與獵人》）

Interviewer: Wendy Chong

採訪者:蔣沛芸

Dr. Chui L. Tsang: Former President of Santa Monica College and San Jose City College, Stanford University Ph.D. in Linguistics, UC Berkeley B.A. in Linguistics, Carnegie Corporation’s “100 Great Immigrants” Honoree

曾聚廉博士: 聖塔莫尼卡學院及聖荷西市立學院前校長、斯坦福大學語言學博士、加州大學伯克利分校語言學學士、卡內基公司「100位偉大的移民」得主

Interviewer: Wendy Chong

採訪者: 蔣沛芸

57 Nicholas Tsang: Award-Winning Cellist, New England Conservatory Student, CCM Cello Concerto Competition, Hellam Competition Winner & International Soloist

曾文弢: 獲獎大提琴家、新英格蘭音樂學院學生、辛辛那提音樂學院協奏曲比賽、赫兰姆青年藝術比賽優勝者及國際獨奏家

Interviewer: Contributed by an anonymous volunteer

採訪者: 匿名志願者

採訪問題貢獻者: 蔣沛芸

Question Contributors: Wendy Chong

56 Prof Daniel Bell: HKU Law Faculty, Chair of Political Theory & Shandong Uni Ex-Dean & Tsinghua Ex-Prof, Princeton-China Series Founding Editor, Huilin Prize Laureate & Author, born in Canada, educated at McGill and Oxford

貝淡寧教授：港大法律系政治理論講座教授、山東大學政治與公共管理學院前院長及清華大學前教授、普林斯頓中國系列（普林斯頓大學出版社）創始編輯、會林文化獎得主及作家，來自加拿大，麥基爾及牛津大學校友

採訪問題貢獻者：蔣沛芸

Question Contributors: Wendy Chong